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Re: Leisenring's Orphan Nymphs

Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 4:59 pm
by hankaye
redietz, Howdy;

Bob, Great looking compared to what my experiments
have looked like so far. Best I've done so far is a very fine
noodle of dubbing in split thread. I ask the Master of Seal
(Hans), this is what he related to me;
" Control your materials, lest the materials take control over you.

Try the following (I am trying to be complete, you may know and do some/all already)

1. Use less.
2. Tease it out so it resembles a haze on your fingers.
3. Dubbing does not adhere to thread, you make it adhere to itself. You shape it into a cylinder which surrounds the thread. Use LOTS of finger pressure as you rub thumb and finger pad together. Use spit as needed 8-)
4. Only twist in ONE direction.
5. Once a reasonable noodle has been formed, slide it up the thread, and catch in the tip with a turn of thread. This becomes your anchor point. You can now twist the noodle tighter.
6. Wrap. "

I'm positive that my small skills pale compared to most so please understand Hans was directing
this to my level....and very well I might add :D
So, I'll just stick with the Seal & Bear

hank

Re: Leisenring's Orphan Nymphs

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:07 pm
by crazy4oldcars
I have a couple of flies tied, and I like them, but I can't get a decent pic to save my flies. :oops:
These will have to do for now. I'm hoping to get a little critique. (Or a lot, as needed. :lol: )

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I only got 2 feelings left, Lust and Greed, and y'all ain't gonna hurt either one of 'em.
I know I still need to shorten the tails, and I'll try to get better pics this week.

Kirk

Re: Leisenring's Orphan Nymphs

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 1:55 pm
by Kelly L.
Kirk, I see nothing wrong with these flies at all. They look GOOD. :D

Re: Leisenring's Orphan Nymphs

Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 5:13 am
by Ruard
Pale Watery Nymph.

My flies are ready. William I will send them to you next week.

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Pale Watery Nymph

Haak: B175 # 14
Thread: Pearsall’s Gossamer #3
Body: cream dubbing 50% Opossum 50% tan hare in splitted thread Sparse on the rear half of the body, more for the thorax section.
Rib: small golden tinsel (only three turns over the rear half of the body)
Hackle: CDL hen dun

This is the Leisenring nymph:

4: Pale Watery Nymph
Hook: 15,16
Silk: Primrose Yellow
Hackle: One or not more than two turns of a darkish-blue cockerel hackle only long enough to suggest wing cases.
Tail: none
Rib: Fine gold wire half-way up the body
Body: Cream colored fur (Chinese mole or Australian opossum)
dubbed very thinly at the tail and heavily at the shoulder or thorax


Greeting

Re: Leisenring's Orphan Nymphs

Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 8:03 am
by tie2fish
A lovely rendition, Ruard.

Re: Leisenring's Orphan Nymphs

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 4:50 pm
by William Anderson
John Shaner, using some exceptional resources and materials at his disposal, along with a skill for reproducing historic patterns that rivals anything I've seen, has put together a set of the Six Orphaned Nymphs using the correct hooks, sizes and materials. Again, these require some degree of interpretation, but if you could see his reference library...you'd appreciate the advantage he has in imagining what these nymphs were like. Thanks, John.


1: March Brown Nymph:
Hook: 13
Silk: Orange
Hackle: A short-fibered, light brown feather from the Hungarian partridge.
Tail: Three Fibers from a cock pheasant tail feather tied very short
Rib: Gold or silver wire
Body: Three reddish fibers from a center feather of a cock pheasant's tail.
(As with peacock's herl, tie in, twist with thread and wind up body, twisting together as you go.)
Thorax: Hare's ear fur dubbed fairly heavily.

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2. Half Stone Nymph
Hook: 13,14
Silk: Primrose yellow
Hackle: Very short blue dun hen's hackle, 2 turns or 3 turns at the most
Tail: none
Rib: Very fine gold or silver wire
Body: Primrose yellow buttonhole twist
Thorax: Mole's fur dubbed fairly heavily

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3. A Dark Olive Nymph
Hook: 14,15
Silk: Primrose Yellow
Hackle: One or not more than two turns of the tiniest blue dun hen's hackle.
Tail: Two or three very short, soft blue dun cock fibers
Rib: Fine gold wire
Body: Dark green-olive seal's fur mixed with a little dark-brown bear's fur (found next to skin)
Spun lightly at the tail and quite heavily at the shoulder and thorax.

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4: Pale Watery Nymph
Hook: 15,16
Silk: Primrose Yellow
Hackle: One or not more than two turns of a darkish-blue cockerel hackle only long enough to suggest wing cases.
Tail: none
Rib: Fine gold wire half-way up the body
Body: Cream colored fur (Chinese mole or Australian opossum)
dubbed very thinly at the tail and heavily at the shoulder or thorax

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5. Pale Watery Nymph 2
Hook: 15,16
Silk: White, waxed with colorless wax
Hackle: One turn of a very short honey dun cock hackle.
Tail: Three strands of very short, soft-blue dun cock fibers
Rib: None
Body: Undyed seal fur or pale buff Australian opossum fur
dubbed lightly at the tail and thicker at the thorax.

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6. July Dun Nymph
Hook: 15,16
Silk: Orange waxed with colorless wax
Hackle: One turn of a very short, soft rusty-dun cock hackle
Tail: Three fibers of a ginger hen's hackle tied very short.
Rib: Fine gold wire halfway up the body
Body: Darkish-brown-olive seal fur
Thorax: Medium-dun mole fur

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Regrettably, my pics are falling short in the past couple months and I'm going to have to reshoot these in the near future. This will have to do. My apologies.

And thanks to everyone who is making the exploration of these mystery flies such a fun exercise. There are so many talented people in this group and the flies I've seen so far are exceptional.

Re: Leisenring's Orphan Nymphs

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 4:55 pm
by fflutterffly
I would have like to have seen these photo's before I sent in my flies. Really nice photo's as well as flies.

Re: Leisenring's Orphan Nymphs

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 6:55 am
by William Anderson
The images from the Orphan Nymphs Swap #22 are posted here: http://www.flymphforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=5495

Re: Leisenring's Orphan Nymphs

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 1:48 am
by Jim Slattery
Some really nice ties folks !
I would suggest looking at the small brown hackle that are found on partridge wing coverts for the March Brown nymph. I like the feathers that are on the edge of the wings and just below. And for what it's worth the tails on both the eastern and western North American March Brown nymphs are long.
Jim