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Stewart's Black Spider

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 9:45 pm
by Smuggler
I'm in the mood for SBS now, thanks to Scott! I've decided on Stewart's/Ballies black spider. It should be in all of our boxes.
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This is what you'll be needing.

Start by waxing the silk with your dark cobblers wax, make sure it's well waxed. Start your silk behind the eye make a small head. Leave a long tag. Take your silk back in line with the hook point.
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Select a feather from the shoulder area of the bird, strip the fluff.
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Tie In your feather the way you would with a hen feather, take the tag end and lay it on the inside curve of the feather.
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Give her a twist and stroke the feathers back if you wish.
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Wind it back to where your thread is and tie off, whip finish and you're done!
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Hook: Daiichi 1550- 16
Silk: Brown waxed with dark cobblers wax
Hackle: Starling

Re: Stewart's Black Spider

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 11:26 pm
by redietz
I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one wraps the feather around the tag. I used to tie it without a bobbin, but found this way to be easier.

Re: Stewart's Black Spider

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 6:47 am
by letumgo
Marvelous tutorial Eric. I am delighted to see all the new tutorials. This is perfect for people learning to tye these flies.

Bravo. You are a natural born teacher.

Re: Stewart's Black Spider

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 8:20 am
by tie2fish
That is very well done, Eric. I will certainly try your "tag twist" technique, as it looks much easier than what I have previously done when tying this pattern.

Re: Stewart's Black Spider

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 9:28 am
by Smuggler
redietz wrote:I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one wraps the feather around the tag. I used to tie it without a bobbin, but found this way to be easier.
It helps so much, I've had people tell me it adds too much bulk.. people like to nitpick I suppose.

Re: Stewart's Black Spider

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 9:32 am
by Smuggler
tie2fish wrote:That is very well done, Eric. I will certainly try your "tag twist" technique, as it looks much easier than what I have previously done when tying this pattern.
Give it a try Bill, you'll find it very helpful!
letumgo wrote:Bravo. You are a natural born teacher.
Thanks Ray!

Re: Stewart's Black Spider

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 10:06 am
by William Anderson
This is great. Thanks Eric. The technique does look easier but it's just so bulky, at first I thought this was a beetle pattern! :lol:

Re: Stewart's Black Spider

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 10:28 am
by Smuggler
:x

Re: Stewart's Black Spider

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 11:21 am
by tie2fish
RE: Bulkiness objection ... how about you make the "tag" out of Veevus or Sheer or Benecchi ?

Re: Stewart's Black Spider

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 11:30 am
by zen leecher
tie2fish wrote:RE: Bulkiness objection ... how about you make the "tag" out of Veevus or Sheer or Benecchi ?
Bill, if you can't find skinnier thread..... consider a skinnier hook such as a 3 x fine. :D I just couldn't find the proper emoticon.


On Eric's SBS with spinning the silk tag and starling feather together - Ron Eagle Elk showed me this method three years ago. It looked easy. But when I tried it something got lost in the translation. I think it was because I tried tying the starling feather in by the tip. I betcha if I tried it by the bottom as Eric (and I probably missed it when REE tied) depicted mine would be less ugly. I think my original was "lumpy bulk".