Eurasian Collared Dove (Dotterel Substitute)

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Re: Eurasian Collared Dove (Dotterel Substitute)

Post by zen leecher » Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:46 pm

I am intrigued by these being close to dotterel's. I see a trip out for them in the next couple weeks.
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Re: Eurasian Collared Dove (Dotterel Substitute)

Post by joaniebo » Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:04 pm

I got these quite a few years ago from Ellis Slater, via friend living in Germany.
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Re: Eurasian Collared Dove (Dotterel Substitute)

Post by letumgo » Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:43 pm

Those appear to be starling wings, dyed orangish tan (burnt orange?). Very nice.
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Re: Eurasian Collared Dove (Dotterel Substitute)

Post by DUBBN » Sun Jan 17, 2021 5:06 pm

zen leecher wrote: Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:46 pm I am intrigued by these being close to dotterel's. I see a trip out for them in the next couple weeks.

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Re: Eurasian Collared Dove (Dotterel Substitute)

Post by bearbutt » Mon Jan 18, 2021 11:11 am

When it comes to subs, there are a lot of factors that come into play: color, size, shape and structure of each feather--. I don't have a dove, alas, but here's a pic of a dotterel, a (golden) plover, and a curlew, so you have a sense of the relative size of each bird. Long term, an ideal plan would be to do a digital featherchart as a sort of pictorial spreadsheet, so you could move different feathers around beside each other to make comparisons. Meanwhile....

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Re: Eurasian Collared Dove (Dotterel Substitute)

Post by letumgo » Mon Jan 18, 2021 11:30 am

Joe - Are the birds listed left to right? Just making sure I know which is which.
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Re: Eurasian Collared Dove (Dotterel Substitute)

Post by bearbutt » Mon Jan 18, 2021 2:50 pm

letumgo wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 11:30 am Joe - Are the birds listed left to right? Just making sure I know which is which.
Yes, left to right...
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Re: Eurasian Collared Dove (Dotterel Substitute)

Post by Updtate » Mon Jan 18, 2021 3:09 pm

Being slightly color blind(newspapers to me are black and pink and read all over)and certainly not a photographer ( my tablet is my camera and my favorite backround is my coffee cup) I would enjoy comments on these feathers. The upper is the Collared Dove and the bottom is the Dotterel. The upper is slightly darker but has that light brownish tone or cast that the lower has. At least to my eyes :geek: :geek:
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Re: Eurasian Collared Dove (Dotterel Substitute)

Post by NightWatchman » Mon Jan 18, 2021 3:41 pm

bearbutt thanks for the pics. A pic is indeed worth a thousand words.
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Re: Eurasian Collared Dove (Dotterel Substitute)

Post by zen leecher » Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:12 pm

I appreciate the comparison photo also and it's nice to see the size of the feather stems also.
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