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Re: Swinging flies during a hatch

Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 8:59 am
by newriverspey
Those are great questions but beyond the scope of this forum. I would suggest the skagit master forum and the spey forum as well. They are great forums and they will answer all your questions. Thanks

Re: Swinging flies during a hatch

Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 7:42 pm
by CreationBear
but beyond the scope of this forum.
I don't know, between me, Hank, and late, great Willowhead (Mark Romero), it's the rare thread that would constrain us. :lol: At any rate, I'll look forward to your posts.

Re: Swinging flies during a hatch

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 9:59 am
by William Anderson
CreationBear wrote:
but beyond the scope of this forum.
I don't know, between me, Hank, and late, great Willowhead (Mark Romero), it's the rare thread that would constrain us. :lol: At any rate, I'll look forward to your posts.
Jon, you're more right than you know. There are a number of members fooling around with long/spey/two handers for trout. I saw one yesterday swung on a stream not more than 20'wide and cast upstream with precision. A testament to every attempt to present these versatile flies in lots of places.

Re: Swinging flies during a hatch

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 10:45 pm
by newriverspey
Well, the rod I am using is a conversion rod. So, I took a 10' 3 weight and added a lower handle making into a very light two handed trout rod. The line I use was made by Steve Godshall and is a Skandit line, so it is a hybrid line that acts as both a Skagit line and a Scandi line. The grain window of this line is roughly the equivalent of a 6 weight line. I do more of a sustained anchor cast and swing soft hackled flies down to a #20 purple and partridge and as large as a # 4 streamer. Even if you catch a smaller trout 6", you can still "feel" the fish on. This rod is not a traditional two handed rod nor a switch rod either. It is truly a blast to fish with and it is fun to just cast.

Re: Swinging flies during a hatch

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 10:50 pm
by newriverspey
Here is one I caught the other day

Re: Swinging flies during a hatch

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 10:23 am
by CreationBear
Nice fish...and no doubt quite a bend in that rod. :) Thanks for details.

At any rate, I think a lot of us are like Moliere's famous gentilhomme who's astounded to learn that he's been speaking prose all his life, in that "single hand spey" casts come naturally in a lot of situations, especially if you're willing to consider a quick haul the functional equivalent of an anchor.
I'm thinking the line between double-hand and single-hand styles might not be as great as it first appears.

BTW William, I always thought that almost one-of-a-kind McFarland blank would have made a good "micro-spey" if you'd added a fighting butt, but then again I wouldn't want to be liable for the hardware you might collect in your off-ear. :)

Re: Swinging flies during a hatch

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 5:21 pm
by newriverspey
Just curious if anyone else is using a two handed rod for swinging soft hackled flies?

Re: Swinging flies during a hatch

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 5:27 pm
by letumgo
Well, yes, sort of. I use a two-handed spey rod to fish for steelhead. I am generally drifting flies which could be classified as soft hackle flies, but they are designed for steelhead. I've never tried my two-hander on regular trout.

Re: Swinging flies during a hatch

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 5:30 pm
by William Anderson
Jon, I have seriously considered putting a couple rods in the queue for the fall, but it's not likely. A two handed steelie rod seems like a natural. A two handed #3 wt...now that's interesting.

Re: Swinging flies during a hatch

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:16 pm
by CreationBear
putting a couple rods in the queue for the fall,
One of them has to be an L. Kenney 8'1' for a three, though...a sovereign cure for any trout application on our side of the Mississippi (at least in top six inches of the water column. :lol: )