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Re: Upstream Wet Fly

Post by letumgo » Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:36 pm

Wayne - I always like the fact you form your own options (contrary or otherwise), based on your experience fishing wet flies. Like a fish, you often “swim against the current”, but that is a good thing IMO.

Keep swimming, my friend. ;)
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Re: Upstream Wet Fly

Post by DUBBN » Sun Jan 03, 2021 7:47 pm

letumgo wrote: Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:36 pm Wayne - I always like the fact you form your own options (contrary or otherwise), based on your experience fishing wet flies. Like a fish, you often “swim against the current”, but that is a good thing IMO.

Keep swimming, my friend. ;)
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Re: Upstream Wet Fly

Post by bocast » Mon Jan 04, 2021 7:37 am

The dropper leader has made my upstream wet fly fishing much more productive, many times so in fact. As Dubbin's post reminds us, each of our experience with a particular approach can be unique. I respect that.

For me watching Wotton's DVD "Wet Fly Ways" and subsequently taking a lesson with Davy Wotton transformed my wet fly fishing, making me a wet fly fan for life. I recall a young guide on the North Platte in Wyoming skeptically eyeing my three fly, dropper style leader set up with three of the wet flies Wotton mentions in the podcast. "Uh, those won't work on this river" was his polite but firm opinion. I showed him my upstream wet fly approach from a stationary drift boat. The first few casts resulted in a boiling, rollicking fight with two big trout, one on the middle dropper and one on the point fly. My next upstream cast produced three fish on the cast, the only time that has ever happened to me. My guide's expression was priceless. "Let me try that rod!" Soon he was catching fish after fish, with one double take on a cast. I'm sure the fact that the trout saw an endless parade of red rock worms and egg patterns had a lot to do with that banner day. I never did as well tying flies to the bend of the hook. All it takes is a slightly larger loop on a reasonably smooth cast to avoid tangling, if the wind isn't a big factor. I managed to cast this way in Wyoming with a fair amount of wind after some practice. I do miss that water now that I live in Ohio. In smaller streams like Spring Creek in PA I use a two fly cast if it is legal, still keeping the two flies well separated. In most larger trout streams and rivers I use three flies, two on droppers sized as per the great Letumgo diagram (thanks for that!) and one on the point fly. Droppers are surgeon's knots tags. I do use tippet rings sometimes with Orvis knots. Of course, your mileage may vary. For me, droppers are the way to go and upstream wet fly fishing is a blast. That Cortland 10'6" 3 wt sounds like just the ticket for wet flies. Is it really an 8 piece rod? I've never even seen an 8 piece rod and would wonder if the joints were noticeable in its action. That would travel well, that's certain.
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Re: Upstream Wet Fly

Post by hankaye » Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:43 am

DUBBN, Howdy;
DUBBN wrote: Sun Jan 03, 2021 7:47 pm
letumgo wrote: Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:36 pm Wayne - I always like the fact you form your own options (contrary or otherwise), based on your experience fishing wet flies. Like a fish, you often “swim against the current”, but that is a good thing IMO.

Keep swimming, my friend. ;)
I have never been able to out fish friends, family, and neighbors by fishing the same way they do. All of them are a hell of a lot smarter than I am. Most people are.
Reminds me of Liam Nesson's famous line from Taken, "...but I have a particular skill-set"

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Re: Upstream Wet Fly

Post by ronr » Mon Jan 04, 2021 11:22 am

dubbn its an 8 piece....LOL are you jealous?
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Re: Upstream Wet Fly

Post by DUBBN » Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:15 pm

ronr wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 11:22 am dubbn its an 8 piece....LOL are you jealous?
😂😂😂😂

I do not have alot of good things to say about Cortland Competition rods.

Four trips with it, 3 breaks.

After the 3rd break, I asked Cortland to refund my money. The worthless turds would not have anything to do with that.

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Re: Upstream Wet Fly

Post by ronr » Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:23 pm

I've fished hard with that rod for almost three years... its the cheaper version...and had no issues at all...its landed 18" fish from the Box Canyon stretch of the Henry's Fork, good fish from the Madison, Deschutes, Yakima and others... I have two friends who also fish with this rod and not had problems... Pretty poor product service though if those guys wouldn't work with you on your problems.
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Re: Upstream Wet Fly

Post by DUBBN » Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:56 pm

ronr wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:23 pm I've fished hard with that rod for almost three years... its the cheaper version...and had no issues at all...its landed 18" fish from the Box Canyon stretch of the Henry's Fork, good fish from the Madison, Deschutes, Yakima and others... I have two friends who also fish with this rod and not had problems... Pretty poor product service though if those guys wouldn't work with you on your problems.
I threw the rod away. Gas costs too much to cut a trip short because of an inferior product.

With in a week of the last break, I was in Bluequill Anglers Flyshop, in Evergreen Colorado. I was discussing the Cortland with the shop manager. He said it was so common to have those rods break, that they discontinued selling Cortland rods and products. The day before, all Cortland stock was sent back. He personally broke two rods, testing them, after hearing so many horror stories.

In the past 2 years I have landed 6 fish in the 5 to 11 lb range. On the Syndicate, 11 foot 3 weight. All those fish came out of fast currents.

I could not possibly count the amount of fish I have brought to the net with that rod in the 12 to 20 inch range.

I am glad you have had success with your Cortland.
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Re: Upstream Wet Fly

Post by ronr » Tue Jan 05, 2021 10:52 am

well you've definitely planted some seeds of concern about carrying only that rod to the water. I guess Ive been lucky.
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Re: Upstream Wet Fly

Post by Tom Smithwick » Sat Jan 09, 2021 9:15 am

Hi All - I am just passing this along regarding a new source of rod blanks that appear to be very high quality at reasonable pricing. Look up the website for Northfork composites. An experienced friend recently put me on to them, telling me that they are well made and highly regarded. Last month, they had their glass blanks on sale 1/2 price, and I ordered a 7 1/2' 4 weight. It just came in, and I am quite impressed with the thing. It seems to be the best ferruling I have experienced on a plastic rod, great looking. and each section is very straight.
In the fly section, they have their 10 foot graphite series blanks on sale for $110 this month, and I suspect they would be excellent for the upstream work being discussed here. Their 11 foot switch rod blanks are also on sale. I expect to be on the Zoom call this afternoon, and will be happy to show the glass blank if there is time. No financial interest on my part, etc, I just like what I have heard and seen so far.

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