Pike flymphs

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Pike flymphs

Post by Fishnkilts » Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:09 pm

I will be going to Minnesota this August and one of the things on my bucket list is to catch a pike on a fly.

With all the success I have had with flymphs with trout, I had the idea why not tie a large one for pike? The obstacle that I'm facing is hackle. I was thinking how ostrich herl might do for hackle. I haven't tried it yet, but it may happen just to settle my intrigue of it.

Is there any other type of feather any of you could recommend for hackle? I'm thinking anywhere from a hook size of 4 to 6.
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Re: Pike flymphs

Post by ForumGhillie » Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:18 pm

Pike and muskie flies are different. At least if you want to catch a larger pike... think big streamers. PM me if you need more info.

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Re: Pike flymphs

Post by SenecaLaker » Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:23 pm

Here is a fly that a friend tries for smallmouths. Add some red and white and it makes a good fly for pike I would bet
It could actually be several flymphs attached together with shanks.

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Re: Pike flymphs

Post by DOUGSDEN » Sat Feb 20, 2021 8:20 pm

Dave,
Now, that's a pretty interesting looking fly! Yes, a series of flymphs end to end! I like this! We gotta know how it's linked (hinged?) together!
Thanks for bringing it to us friend!
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Re: Pike flymphs

Post by Mike62 » Sun Feb 21, 2021 8:41 am

Man, good luck; I'm really looking forward to seeing what you come up with for a pattern! We don't have Pike, but we do have Muskie. I don't think there's a huge difference, but then I don't know anything about either of them, really. Muskie have become established here in the Allagash. Thankfully, Allagash Falls is barrier to the rest of the watershed. Fishing for them has become quite a good business for the local guides; it's a nice addendum to guiding for moose and bear.

I've never seen a Muskie flymph, but I'm sure you can work it out; these guys up here throw giant 7"-8"- even 10" patterns to them. Literally, it must be like trying to cast the proverbial wet gym sock.

Lot of guys starting to use spey rods on the larger waters of the St.John. Fort Kent holds a Muskie Derby every summer and the winning fish has always been in the upper 20lb. range. I'm sure Minnesota fish are just as big. As far as hackle goes, I think you're just supposed to tie on the whole chicken.
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Re: Pike flymphs

Post by ForumGhillie » Sun Feb 21, 2021 1:26 pm

Big muskie fever in NW Wisconsin as well as northern MN. About every other year we her stories of small dogs being devoured by big muskies. Ladies let their little "foo-foo" play in the shallow water along the beach. All of a sudden a huge splash and "foo-foo" is gone. :lol: :lol:

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Re: Pike flymphs

Post by SenecaLaker » Sun Feb 21, 2021 3:30 pm

DOUGSDEN wrote: Sat Feb 20, 2021 8:20 pm Dave,
Now, that's a pretty interesting looking fly! Yes, a series of flymphs end to end! I like this! We gotta know how it's linked (hinged?) together!
Thanks for bringing it to us friend!
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Hi Doug, I think Mark calls it a "Feather Game Changer" . He ties them in a bunch of colors. It is definitely predator food. We do well on smallmouth and large brown trout in our northern Michigan rivers with them. The fly is tied with a larger hook with several shanks attached and tied in. When waterlogged, it is a heavy fly, requiring a 7 weight rod or line to cast. Here is a link to a youtube video of one that I found this morning being tied. Hope this helps. It takes quite a long time to tie this one.



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Re: Pike flymphs

Post by Fishnkilts » Sun Feb 21, 2021 6:40 pm

Dave, that's a very cool looking fly indeed, and I can surely see a smallish to an average sized pike taking one of those. I can also see that it would take a long time to tie.
Thank you for sharing that, it's awesome.

I'm not new to pike fishing, I have done it before when my wife and I would take a trip to Minnesota with her parents to visit their family and fish. We do have pike and tiger musky here where I live, and in some parts of Colorado, like the Rio Blanco Res., there is a bounty on pike, $20 a fish and no limit and size doesn't matter.

I used to use spoons and other types of lures for pike and did quite well, but I no longer fish with conventional gear and believe it or not, I tried casting a bait caster set up a few years ago and I can no longer cast a rod like that because I'm so tuned into fly rods. So now I want to catch pike with flies.

ForumGhillie, I certainly will be using large streamers, along with poppers in the shallows. And I will gladly accept any advice you want to share. So expect a PM from me. Thank you
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Re: Pike flymphs

Post by ForumGhillie » Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:29 am

If you Google search "Brad Bohen" you will see a lot of big musky / northern pike flies. Brad has his own guide business and is a good friend. Every year he offers to take me musky fishing in his boat on the big warmwater rivers in NW WI. I turn him down every year. I don't enjoy the thought of fishing with a 10wt fly rod and throwing 12" long dish rags for 8-10 hours, my arms would probably fall off. We do trout fish together at times in the Spring.
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Re: Pike flymphs

Post by Fishnkilts » Mon Feb 22, 2021 3:16 pm

ForumGhillie wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:29 am If you Google search "Brad Bohen" you will see a lot of big musky / northern pike flies. Brad has his own guide business and is a good friend. Every year he offers to take me musky fishing in his boat on the big warmwater rivers in NW WI. I turn him down every year. I don't enjoy the thought of fishing with a 10wt fly rod and throwing 12" long dish rags for 8-10 hours, my arms would probably fall off. We do trout fish together at times in the Spring.

I will certainly look him up on Google. I figure a week casting a 10 weight with chickens on the other end would certainly buff up my arms and shoulders if anything positive comes out of it.
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