Yeah, but why do you need to go around more than once?
Bob, you could probably get away with one turn or maybe less. I'm just not that coordinated. I need a couple turns to figure out where everything is going and how to get it there. It's not a cast I've used often enough to practice a lot.
"A man may smile and bid you hale yet curse you to the devil, but when a good dog wags his tail he is always on the level"