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Have you been able to positively identify those as a caddis species?

No. The "black caddis" reference comes from this fishing/hatch report.

Fly fishing hatches in order of importance: BWOs, Midges, Black Caddis, March Browns

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tie2fish wrote:Excepting the yellowish markings as opposed to reddish, these look similar to box elder bugs.

Actually, the bark on which these bugs are sitting looks quite a bit like that of a young Texas boxelder tree ... https://www.google.com/search?q=box+eld ... 1024%3B768

Hans Weilenmann wrote:

Boris wrote:Have you been able to positively identify those as a caddis species? They appear almost smooth or shiny winged. I may be wrong but I recall caddis having a textured type of wing, a bit like a moth rather than a shiny smooth wing.

Boris,

Not to be pedantic but the answer lies in the Latin name for the order:

Trichoptera (Caddisflies)

The name Trichoptera, derived from the Greek words "trichos" meaning hair and "ptera" meaning wings, refers to the long, silky hairs that cover most of the body and wings.

Cheers,
Hans W

Thanks Hans. Nothing pedantic in your answer.

Yes, names are not usually arbitrary but often descriptive in some way as your post reveals.

I don't know what your photo is of, but it is not caddis.

"Black Caddis" I think is just a relative term to early season hatching grannom. These are also the Mother's Day Caddis. The pupa are green with dark bands normally. After they emerge and fly about for a couple hours the bodies turn brown with a dark brown almost black wing, hence the Black Caddis.

Even though the pupa are green, I have tried to match the green color but I think the peacock body still works better. I don't know why. Maybe rib the peacock with green.

Nemes' has a great Mother's Day caddis softy pattern with a peacock body, partridge hackle and dubbed mole head. Here is my version. I just add a dun dyed peacock thorax to represent an emerging wing.



Here is another I like to use. Bronze peacock body, rusty dun hackle, and coq de leon hackle fibers spread out on top for wing.

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When in doubt, whip the peacock out. (Good thing is, even if the troot ignore these, we almost certainly have bluegill- or green sunfish-slayers on our hands.) Size . . . 14-18?

The pupa are green with dark bands normally. After they emerge and fly about for a couple hours the bodies turn brown with a dark brown almost black wing, hence the Black Caddis.

Thank you for overcoming my accidental hijacking of my own thread and addressing what is needed.

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Usually in #14 and #16 in my neck of the woods.

That's a nice tie, both are.

I enjoy the Black Caddis hatch on the Big Horn River in Montana. Comes off in September .
It looks nothing like the Mothers Day caddis, and it does cover the drift boat when it hatches.
Muskrat Soft Hackle has always done well for me. Especially in riffles.

http://www.madeontheyellowstone.com/mad ... addis.html

Here is another one.

http://www.blue-ribbon-flies.com/shop/g ... is_larvae/

Very nice patterns, Carl! Very nice take on Nemes' Mother's Day Caddis.

Best,

Tim