Swinging Emergers?

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Re: Swinging Emergers?

Postby Randyflycaster » Tue Oct 07, 2014 8:05 am

Thanks so much. Unfortunately, the streams here in NY that I fish are now closed. I did start swinging emergers a few days late the fly fishing season and didn't have much success - I was using emergers of my own design with CDC wings, so maybe the patterns were at fault - but then again, I was fishing for wild trout and fishing was difficult to say the least. When I switched to spider flies those days I also didn't have much luck.

The Lawrie book looks interesting. Any thoughts about it?

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Re: Swinging Emergers?

Postby UC Steve » Wed Oct 08, 2014 2:37 am

Sure, I swing emergers. But as to "technique", each run demands what, or what combination. Perhaps better than the pat answer, would be to say: let the water & the fish dictate the presentation.
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Re: Swinging Emergers?

Postby WiFlyfisher » Wed Oct 08, 2014 4:30 pm

I generally think of "emergers" as an insect in the film transforming from a nymph to an adult stage (such as a mayfly dun). Thus, I am not swinging the emerger but instead seeing where the fish is rising and place my emerger pattern about 3 feet ahead and drift it down into his feeding lane. I used that emerger technique at lot in mid-September out on the Firehole and Madison River.

That's not to say a trout may willingly take a across and down swinging emerger pattern. If it looks like food, acts like food, it may get inhaled.
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Re: Swinging Emergers?

Postby letumgo » Wed Oct 08, 2014 6:09 pm

John - How long have you had that avatar? What a beautiful fly!
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Re: Swinging Emergers?

Postby WiFlyfisher » Thu Oct 09, 2014 4:30 am

letumgo wrote:John - How long have you had that avatar? What a beautiful fly!

A long time... nothing special. It's a pretty simple and standard soft hackle pattern that I have used since I was a kid many moons ago. I believe it was called the March Brown Spider when I first began tying it as a kid. Body is hare's ear mask with gold wire rib with either a Wisconsin grouse or English Partridge feather for the tail and collar. For me it's a "must have" in my fly box in various sizes for my favorite northern Wisconsin freestone trout streams.
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Re: Swinging Emergers?

Postby Siksika » Sun Nov 02, 2014 6:28 pm

I love to swing emergers. By that I mean, I like to swing flymphs (tied on a wet fly hook) and traditional wets subsurface (12"-18" below). I'll cast straight across and finish directly down stream, allowing the fly to emerge below me. I might even put a "Big Jim" lift on it at the end of the swing from time to time.
However, on spring creeks, I have a passion for casting flymphs and traditional wets (tied on dry hooks) upstream, letting them ride in the film. As it drifts I will give the "sudden inch" mend. I will do this all they way around and down on each cast.
My method in this is to start the fly as dry as possible and then slowly let it get wetter from cast to cast, depending on how the trout are responding. They might prefer it dry. They might prefer it half and half. They might be sipping them an inch from the surface. A little movement on, in or below the surface can be a real trigger sometimes and the takes have all the pomp and circumstance of a dry-fly take.
I have had great success with this during mayfly and caddis hatches. It is especially effective as a searching pattern/method when nothing seems to be happening.
Note: When doing this give yourself every advantage to hook up. Keep your line and leader clean and greased. A shorter tippet and higher-modulus rod are great for traditional wet-fly swing depths, but use a longer leader/tippet and softer rod for surface action. I prefer e-glass myself.
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Re: Swinging Emergers?

Postby Old Hat » Sun Nov 09, 2014 11:58 am

Siksika, good to see you posting. You fit right in with most on this forum I am sure.
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Re: Swinging Emergers?

Postby William Anderson » Mon Nov 10, 2014 8:21 am

Old Hat wrote:Siksika, good to see you posting. You fit right in with most on this forum I am sure.

Carl, I agree.

Siksika, great to hear your take on the emergers. I think we share a lot of common ground.
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