Fly tyer's often have their own unique terminology for colors. I believe that in regards to the original question; Veniard's was most likely the dyes used. If anyone is interested, on page 27 of the book in the link below, is the story of the origin of Veniard's dye colors. Crawshaw was later bought...

This dealer appears to stock Veniard's Sienna. Bill


http://www.flies4fishing.com/Retail%20C ... 20Dyes.htm

Here are some good dyes to try. Click on "Browns, Grays, Black" in the left side column to see yarn dyed these colors. Bill

http://www.earthguild.com/products/dyes ... caatoe.htm

Dotterel wing feathers are the model of honey dun. Bill http://www.dtnicolson.dial.pipex.com/page85.html http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.stevenround-birdphotography.com/images/dotterel-01.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.stevenround-birdphotography.com/Dotterel.htm&usg=__si0NSAwgY3...

Has anyone read this one?

http://www.ffcl.com/product.php/20/dame ... -mysteries

Bill

Something to look forward to:

http://www.ffcl.com/product.php/341/bro ... ming-title

Bill