Get a little fish slime , decaying moss, or dirt on your wet fly. Especially after it is water logged. I bet those barbules press against the abdomen at the slightest current caused pressure.

I didnt want to hijack the Stewart Black Spider thread. I keep a few Peacock and Black, & Black Spiders in my fly box. I will not call the Black Spider a Stewart as I dont want to argue the point if it is or is not tied in a manner to call it a Stewart. Both patterns are always tied in size 18. ...

The search results I got before asking what "4B hen feathers" are returned all sorts of results about decor and none about tying flies and some stuff about elevator parts; so thank you for suggesting I repeat that search. I now know just as much about your contribution as I care to. A rep...

Trevis wrote: ↑Fri Aug 30, 2019 12:26 pm

DUBBN wrote: ↑Fri Aug 30, 2019 12:15 pm

Trevis wrote: ↑Fri Aug 30, 2019 10:37 am Dun4B Hen feathers? Unknown to me.
Fly looks fishy.

GOOGLE it.

yep, wall & garden decor, Thanks.

The 4B hen neck is a great addition to any soft hackle material collection. I could not comment on your taste in home and garden decor.

Trevis wrote: ↑Fri Aug 30, 2019 10:37 am Dun4B Hen feathers? Unknown to me.
Fly looks fishy.

GOOGLE it.

Dubbn, what size hooks can you tie on using the 4B hen feathers? I didn't buy any because the pictures I looked at all the feathers seemed really large for 14's and 16's, that is as small as I tie because of my vision. Thank you. I can tie down to 22 with the 4B, but its a struggle. Whiting Genetic...

Dun and Dun, size 14 Dun Hares Mask and Dun4B Hen feathers. Tail,CDL Hen https://i.postimg.cc/0NF5qVDQ/69614033-2592217424143626-8915207020970246144-n.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/W3wy73Nv/69717257-2592217550810280-1424987784224964608-n.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/Gp1zSCSh/69349981-2592217477476954-8159913...

I still tie and fish a few buckskin patterns and believe the chamois gives the fish something to chew on. After a few fish, they get stanked and slimed like the real thing :twisted: ... synthetics don't do that. The downside is they do not dry well and there will be some rusty hooks but it's a smal...

Wayne - Why do you dislike buckskin? What characteristic(s) causes you to seek other options? Curious to hear your thoughts. ;) I dislike chamois, which is used to tie the Buckskin nymphs. I broke my right hand 10 days ago, and am trying to find patterns I can tie. Chamois is too fragile with or wi...

On standard well documented/recipe flies, add a thorax if the creator of the pattern did so. Then omit the thorax if you are so inclined.There are no hard rules for creating soft hackles. You are bound by your own imagination,and what you decide the fish prefer. If you are tying to impress other tye...