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Re: Tups Indispensable

Post by ForumGhillie » Thu Dec 13, 2018 6:33 pm

This awesome gentlemen. I would type some questions but my left hand has been under the weather and out of use and it is my casting hand.

Keep it going.

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Re: Tups Indispensable

Post by PhilA » Thu Dec 13, 2018 11:27 pm

John,
Thank you for the photo. The color of most Tup's blends that I've seen, including my own, is decidedly not "a delicate pink tinge". I've saved your photos in the archives and will get back to work on a better mix. More spaniel ... more scrotal wool ... less seal's fur ... and just enough hare to bind it together. Knowing the fiber length of the red seal's fur (or perhaps it's mohair in the early Austin mix) is quite helpful.

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Re: Tups Indispensable

Post by PhilA » Thu Dec 13, 2018 11:31 pm

A little more Tup's trivia...

Anybody wonder where the name "Tup's Indispensable" came from and why it's faintly red? The root origin is Skues' sense of humor. 'Tup' is a Middle English term for ram, as in male sheep. 'Indispensable' derives from that which distinguishes a ram from a ewe. The wiry ram's wool used for Tup's Indispensables is harvested from a ram's scrotum. It's often described as a "dusty yellow", and I'm told that rendering it "thoroughly washed and cleansed of the natural oil" is not a pleasant task.

The tinge of red derives from an old English method of knowing when each ewe in a flock had been mated by a ram. Farmers would first tie a rag soaked in red dye to the belly of the rams. Then, the flock would be inspected each morning to identify ewes who had red stains on their backs. Such ewes had been 'tupped', and the shephard would then know when the lamb would arrive. Procreation is a messy business, and the red dye of tupping inevitably spread to the ram's private parts. This ram, for example, has been attending to the procreation of orange Tup's dubbing...

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Re: Tups Indispensable

Post by tie2fish » Fri Dec 14, 2018 7:32 am

Pretty sure I had read this some place before, but this illustrates it far better. Thanks, PhilA.
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Re: Tups Indispensable

Post by ForumGhillie » Fri Dec 14, 2018 7:50 am

How did they go about blending materials back then? By hand?
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Re: Tups Indispensable

Post by tie2fish » Fri Dec 14, 2018 9:25 am

ForumGhillie wrote:
Fri Dec 14, 2018 7:50 am
How did they go about blending materials back then? By hand?
I still do for small quantities; helpful when using a Clark block as you can align the fibers while blending.
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Re: Tups Indispensable

Post by narcodog » Fri Dec 14, 2018 10:19 am

ForumGhillie wrote:
Fri Dec 14, 2018 7:50 am
How did they go about blending materials back then? By hand?
Coffee mill.
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Re: Tups Indispensable

Post by joaniebo » Fri Dec 14, 2018 10:38 am

A link to a previous discussion elsewhere:

http://classicflyrodforum.com/forum/vie ... 3&t=100746
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Re: Tups Indispensable

Post by letumgo » Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:31 pm

I'm late to the party, but am always interested when I read the phrase "Tups Indispensable".

I've enjoyed reading this new thread, and seeing fresh details on an much discussed topic. Great contributions guys.

I chuckled when I saw the photo of the sheep. Seems like neighboring farms would each want their own different color, as a way to monitor their flocks.

Thanks for the added links, photos and article reprint. This really should be pinned as a reference.
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Re: Tups Indispensable

Post by Mike62 » Fri Dec 14, 2018 1:34 pm

PhilA wrote:
Thu Dec 13, 2018 11:31 pm
A little more Tup's trivia...

It's often described as a "dusty yellow", and I'm told that rendering it "thoroughly washed and cleansed of the natural oil" is not a pleasant task.
A lot of things we do as farmers would seem genuinely unpleasant to a lot of people, and maybe they are; ...you get used to it. This is a great thread. I've made my own version of Tup's dubbing in the past but I see that I have far too much red in my mixture.
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