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Re: Woven Nymph Body Fly Patterns

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 2:45 pm
by PhilA
Nice fly John! Bearbutt's flies are indeed an inspiration. He could lead you down a slippery slope, however. True artists like him are hard to keep up with. With enough rain and flooded rivers though, you might wake up aspiring to this...

A George Grant woven nymph...
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Cheers,
PhilA

Re: Woven Nymph Body Fly Patterns

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 3:03 pm
by Variant
Hi John,

I tie up a pattern called the LaFonte Wobble-Rite Caddis Pupa.
I am not set up to post pictures as of yet but if you look on pages 84-89 of THE CADDIS AND THE ANGLER there is a step by step to weave the pattern. Once you get the technique down you can change the colors of the floss for different patterns. You also can modify the fly by wrapping a hackle collar to look more like a Mayfly nymph.

I really like your pattern, very lifelike.😀
Lou

Re: Woven Nymph Body Fly Patterns

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 5:16 pm
by bearbutt
ForumGhillie wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2019 11:16 am This is all Beatbutt's fault.
I plead nolo contendere.

However, I cannot take credit for the ties. I'd have to give it a lot more practice to get the body tapered like these:

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They are all tied with floss bodies--. Grant tied with nylon monofilament. Though saying he "tied' those bullets is a misnomer--I just don't know what word to use? Ask anyone who tied for Hank Roberts....

bb

Re: Woven Nymph Body Fly Patterns

Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2019 9:13 am
by bearbutt
ForumGhillie wrote: ↑Sun Oct 06, 2019 8:32 am bb, I have to see those flies sometime. Then we need to dissect one to learn how they were tied.
A time-honored and proven tradition--learning to tie by untying, as Walt & Winnie did, and others too.

But of course, we will do that, and join the crowd. Perhaps we should get a table at next spring's Badger Opener, with Phil and Henry, and spend the day untying flies. We will of course need an amanuensis at our elbows, to draw and notate as we untie, and marvel, and curse at the wonders we are discovering in the face of our own mediocrity.

It'll be fun.

Perhaps we should make a list of flies to untie? I have a bunch of Hank Roberts woven nymphs to untangle. What else? A Kenny Abrames flatwing maybe?

Here's a Hank Roberts Domino--size 4 or 6, not sure--note the thin abdomen and tapered thorax--

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bb

Re: Woven Nymph Body Fly Patterns

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 12:39 pm
by Theroe
the "stoker-of-all-things" bearbutt sent that photo my way as well......weaving is a whole other black hole to go down !

I returned my colleagues favor by sending him a picture of some of Ivans woven stones:

Re: Woven Nymph Body Fly Patterns

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 12:41 pm
by Theroe
PhilA wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2019 2:45 pm Nice fly John! Bearbutt's flies are indeed an inspiration. He could lead you down a slippery slope, however. True artists like him are hard to keep up with. With enough rain and flooded rivers though, you might wake up aspiring to this...

A George Grant woven nymph...
Image

Cheers,
PhilA
Phil - that is an excellent example of Mr. Grants work......I would really like to see a few more angled shots of that pattern, if you dont mind..

Dana

Re: Woven Nymph Body Fly Patterns

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 1:40 pm
by chase creek
PhilA, "I don't think I will live long enough to figure out how to tie the Grant woven nymph."

ME, EITHER! :D :D

Re: Woven Nymph Body Fly Patterns

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 6:48 pm
by hankaye
Howdy All;

I know Knot ( :roll: ), of Mr. Grant nor the others discussed above.
I do know that most of the "Woven" types are using what are referred
to as Plaited Sennits (aka Macrame). Several books about tying several
differing varieties are available. The bestest of the batch is "Ashley's
Book of Knots" referred to as ABoK by a lot of Knot tyers (aka The knotter's
Bible). A good second (less costly as well), That can lead to a whole
'nutther hobby would be either "The Marlinespike Sailor" or it's companion,
"The Arts of the Sailor" by Hervey Garrett Smith.
The last 2 give much better (read as easier to follow), illustrations then
the first.

hank

PS. dd, Howdy, alas, I didn't find your elusive Knot in any of them :( .

Re: Woven Nymph Body Fly Patterns

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 8:28 pm
by letumgo
What an interesting thread, and the patterns are really inspiring. I've only played around a little with woven body patterns. Seeing these flies, make me want to try these again.

Thanks for sharing the various posts. Good stuff!

Re: Woven Nymph Body Fly Patterns

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 3:34 pm
by daringduffer
hankaye wrote: ↑Wed Oct 09, 2019 6:48 pm ................................

PS. dd, Howdy, alas, I didn't find your elusive Knot in any of them :( .

hank, you would probably knot find it in a Japanese book either...

dd