Ray's Silk-Bodied Caddis/Green Sedge/Rockworm (Tutorial/SBS)

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Re: Ray's Silk-Bodied Caddis (Green Sedge/Rockworm)

Post by tjd » Mon Apr 18, 2011 4:46 pm

Ray,

No link, but here is the dressing:

Hook: Std wet fly (3906B)
Tail: Short section of green floss
Body: Green floss
Rib: Oval silver tinsel
Back: Peacock herl
Hackle: Partridge

It's a pretty old pattern. I remember tying/fishing it in the 70's.

Your's looks a lot better! :P

Best,

Tim
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Re: Ray's Silk-Bodied Caddis (Green Sedge/Rockworm)

Post by letumgo » Mon Apr 18, 2011 5:47 pm

Thanks Tim. It does sound like the patterns are similar.
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Re: Ray's Silk-Bodied Caddis (Green Sedge/Rockworm)

Post by DNicolson » Fri Apr 22, 2011 11:20 am

Very very interesting Fly. I like the idea of using peacock herl for the back.
Lawrie used wisps of fur bound down with the rib to give his nymphs a two tone effect.
This gives me ideas for some of his nymphs, modernised.
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Re: Ray's Silk-Bodied Caddis (Green Sedge/Rockworm)

Post by letumgo » Fri Apr 22, 2011 7:28 pm

Thanks Donald. You have given me an idea for a new fly. I will post it if the idea works.
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Re: Ray's Silk-Bodied Caddis (Green Sedge/Rockworm)

Post by DUBBN » Fri Apr 22, 2011 7:49 pm

"Wind the rib forward in open loops. Use your off hand to hold the peacock herl in place, while wrapping the rib. Otherwise it slips off the back."

This step is kicking my BUTT! I will get it though. I'm gonna catch a State record Whitey with that fly in about 3 months. Think I will pick off a few trout in the mean time with it. Awesome tie sir!
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Re: Ray's Silk-Bodied Caddis (Green Sedge/Rockworm)

Post by letumgo » Fri Apr 22, 2011 10:25 pm

Dubbn - the herl back is the hardest part of the fly. If you have a rotary, you could try rotating the fly (maybe 45°) so that you can see the back of the fly. I press a finger firmly against the back side to the fly to keep the herl from sliding down the backside. If that doesn't work for you, you could skip step 8 (binding down the herl) allowing the ends to be pulled back and forth. This way you can readjust the herl after each wrap of the ribbing. I'm sure you will find a method that works for you.

Best of luck with the State record. That would be cool!
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Re: Ray's Silk-Bodied Caddis (Green Sedge/Rockworm)

Post by DUBBN » Sat Apr 23, 2011 1:46 pm

letumgo wrote:Dubbn - the herl back is the hardest part of the fly. If you have a rotary, you could try rotating the fly (maybe 45°) so that you can see the back of the fly. I press a finger firmly against the back side to the fly to keep the herl from sliding down the backside. If that doesn't work for you, you could skip step 8 (binding down the herl) allowing the ends to be pulled back and forth. This way you can readjust the herl after each wrap of the ribbing. I'm sure you will find a method that works for you.

Best of luck with the State record. That would be cool!
I usually catch two or three a year that would break the State record . I will take a pic of the fish with your pattern, and it's unofficial weight ( have scales in my net).
I doubt I will ever get the official record. Who wants to stop fishing just to go weigh a dead fish?

I got the hang of tying the Peacock to the back. I am tying a few with Orange (October Caddis)
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Re: Ray's Silk-Bodied Caddis (Green Sedge/Rockworm)

Post by letumgo » Sun Apr 24, 2011 11:25 am

Dubbn - The orange version sounds great. I was thinking of also doing versions in others colors (orange, yellow, white, and mixed/combination versions). I'm on a blue kick lately, so I want to tye a version with blue silk and peacock swords, instead of the peacock herl. I think I will do a few with white or tinsel under-bodies, to improve the brightness of the silk body once it gets wet.
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Re: Ray's Silk-Bodied Caddis (Green Sedge/Rockworm)

Post by CreationBear » Sun Apr 24, 2011 12:06 pm

I think I will do a few with white or tinsel under-bodies
Outstanding: we'll definitely need "before and after dunking" shots...it's been amazing to me how much the underbody changes the appearance of the fly. :) (I'm convinced that, when wet, all colors of Pearsall's look the same when wrapped on a bare hook. :lol: )
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