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Conover Muskrat

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 8:59 pm
by letumgo
Hook - Daiichi Model 1710 / Size 12
Thread - 8/0 UNI-Thread (Black)
Hackle - Hen Saddle (Mottled Brown)
Body - Conover Muskrat Dubbing (50/50 mix of muskrat underfur and red wool yarn)

This was inspired by Wayne's recent Muskrat series of muskrat flies. I've been thinking about making some Conover dubbing (made famous by the Dette's of Roscoe area Catskill New York). I figured I could blend muskrat underfur with a series of different color yarns to see how they look.

This series of photos are all taken of the same fly. The only difference is the color of the background. The camera was set on a tripod and kept at the same settings for each of the photos. I find it interesting how much the visible details change in each of the photos. The photos are doctored, except for cropping.

(I am not trying to rehash the recent discussion about photography, I was just trying it out for myself. The backgrounds are paint samples I picked up at the local Walmart.)

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Mark (willowhead) - The hackle on this fly one of the hen saddles I bough when you and I visited the Dette house. While you were talking to Joe, I was crouched on the ground scrounging thru his hen saddles. I got one of the nicest mottled ginger brown hen saddles I ever seen.

Re: Conover Muskrat

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 9:34 pm
by willowhead
Ray, i remember that exact moment............and i kept looking out the corner of my eye to see what you were up to. i'm very glad you got some cool stuff. Being at the Dett's shop and scoring is an experience never to be forgotten.....and i know you won't. We have SOO many memories of times in that house. Misa and i are sitting here together checking out your fly with all the different backgrounds, and she is loving it, as am i. Way cool thread. Amazing what the different colored light reflections can do to the look of a fly.....do you have Forgotten Flies? Check out what Preston Jennings was all about with light and color. ;)

Re: Conover Muskrat

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 9:41 pm
by letumgo
Yes, I bought a copy of Forgotten Flies on e-bay a few years ago. I've read Mr. Jenning's section a couple times, so I know just what you mean.

(Hi Misa! ;) )

Re: Conover Muskrat

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 9:47 pm
by willowhead
Ray.....sorry, i knew that was a DUH! question. :D Misa says hi and to thank you for the disk with all the cool pics. ;)

Re: Conover Muskrat

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 10:03 pm
by letumgo
Here is another version of the fly that is tyed with a blend of muskrat underfur and yellow wool yarn (roughly 50/50 blend). The body has been picked out with a bodkin needle, after the fly was finished. I broke off the hackle and messed up the head ( :( ), but it will still fish okay. :lol: The yellow wool causes the dubbing to look sort of a dull olive/dun. Very cool color.

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Here is a third version is a "spectrumized" (1/2 mustkrat + 1/3rd red wool + 1/3rd yellow wool + 1/3rd orange wool blend).

Tuck's Spectrumized Muskrat
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Re: Conover Muskrat

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 10:29 pm
by letumgo
Here is a close-up photo of the "spectrumized" body.

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Re: Conover Muskrat

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 10:49 pm
by hankaye
Ray, Howdy;

Great looking study of the different backgrounds.
The flys are spectacular...
Think you could zoom in a tad further....... :lol:

hank

Re: Conover Muskrat

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 12:31 am
by willowhead
All the different bodies are great..........the top set for ISO hatches i would think they'd kill.....the 50/50 w/yellow wool is so buggy lookin' it'd work in many instances.....(sulphers, maybe beatis)...and the spectrumized, WOW what a cool searching/attractor pattern color. i can just see you in the lab, wringing your hands like you'd just given life to Frankinstein, and he's in the process of sitting up while turning his head to see daddy. :twisted: Somebody should publish a new fly tying mag. called The New Mad Magazine. :D My flies would qualify..... :lol: :lol:

Re: Conover Muskrat

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 6:57 am
by tie2fish
Great work all 'round, Ray -- dubbings, tying, photos, the background color sequence concept. And Mssrs. Caucci/Nastasi would be envious of your "spectrumized" blending ;) .

Re: Conover Muskrat

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 7:27 am
by CreationBear
I hope there is no charge for awesomenss. :lol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jh_MclxU_48

A question about your dubbing technique: are you using a no-doubt thin "noodle" around the thread, or are you splitting your thread? In any case, the black thread as a "background" adds a real dimenionality to the appearance of your flies. :)