Jim Slattery Demonstrating Leisenring Dubbing Technique

Moderators: William Anderson, letumgo

User avatar
letumgo
Site Admin
Posts: 10155
Joined: Sat Feb 21, 2009 7:55 pm
Location: Buffalo, New York
Contact:

Jim Slattery Demonstrating Leisenring Dubbing Technique

Post by letumgo » Sat Nov 29, 2014 8:52 pm

Here is a link to a new YouTube video I uploaded today. I shot this video footage of Jim Slattery, demonstrating the process of forming a dubbed silk body for a flymph. Jim did his demonstration while we were at his place, during the Flymph Forum gathering earlier this summer. Jim is forming the dubbed body on his pants leg, just like Jim Leisenring used to do it.

Pause the video at different points to read about the detailed tying steps.



Bravo Jim! Sorry it has taken me this long to process the video. The file was HUGE, so it has taken me a while to get it uploaded and then to add the annotations. I've never done this before, so there was quite a bit of learning involved.

Enjoy...
Ray (letumgo)----<°))))))><
http://www.flytyingforum.com/index.php? ... er=letumgo

"Casting a fly rod in these tight quarters takes patience (swearing quietly to ones self helps too)."
User avatar
William Anderson
Site Admin
Posts: 4541
Joined: Mon Feb 23, 2009 3:14 pm
Location: Ashburn, VA 20148
Contact:

Re: Jim Slattery Demonstrating Leisenring Dubbing Technique

Post by William Anderson » Sat Nov 29, 2014 10:33 pm

Another treasure of a resource and a fun reminder of that night getting to tie with Jim and the gang at the cafe. Thank you for putting this up. Nicely done.
"A man should not try to eliminate his complexes, but rather come into accord with them. They are ultimately what directs his conduct in the world." Sigmund Freud.
www.WilliamsFavorite.com
DOUGSDEN
Posts: 1671
Joined: Sun Feb 22, 2009 10:57 pm
Location: Sardis, Ohio

Re: Jim Slattery Demonstrating Leisenring Dubbing Technique

Post by DOUGSDEN » Sat Nov 29, 2014 10:40 pm

Jim,
Excellent video clip! How in the world can you tie without a bobbin? You are demonstrating the old way of tying and I find that fascinating and great to watch! It was good to see you again Jim "in person". Who was that character in the background towards the end of the sequence?
Top notch Ray as always!
Dougsden
Fish when you can, not when you should! Anything short of this is just a disaster.
User avatar
letumgo
Site Admin
Posts: 10155
Joined: Sat Feb 21, 2009 7:55 pm
Location: Buffalo, New York
Contact:

Re: Jim Slattery Demonstrating Leisenring Dubbing Technique

Post by letumgo » Sat Nov 29, 2014 11:20 pm

Do you guys see pop-up text while watching the video? I annotated the video, but it does not seem to be working unless I am logged into my YouTube account. I intended to have the annotations visible to everyone. Please let me know if they are appearing correctly.
Ray (letumgo)----<°))))))><
http://www.flytyingforum.com/index.php? ... er=letumgo

"Casting a fly rod in these tight quarters takes patience (swearing quietly to ones self helps too)."
Mataura mayfly
Posts: 3648
Joined: Thu Oct 27, 2011 6:28 am
Location: Southland, South Island, New Zealand.

Re: Jim Slattery Demonstrating Leisenring Dubbing Technique

Post by Mataura mayfly » Sun Nov 30, 2014 2:24 am

Pop up's work fine down here in the deep South.
Well done to all involved.
"Listen to the sound of the river and you will get a trout".... Irish proverb.
User avatar
Ruard
Posts: 1901
Joined: Sun Feb 22, 2009 5:00 am
Location: Alkmaar
Contact:

Re: Jim Slattery Demonstrating Leisenring Dubbing Technique

Post by Ruard » Sun Nov 30, 2014 4:20 am

Mataura mayfly wrote:Pop up's work fine down here in the deep South.
Well done to all involved.
For me too, I think it is Bill in the background.


greeting


Ruard
There will allways be a solution.
http://www.aflyinholland.nl
User avatar
tie2fish
Posts: 5087
Joined: Sun Feb 22, 2009 9:11 am
Location: Harford County, MD

Re: Jim Slattery Demonstrating Leisenring Dubbing Technique

Post by tie2fish » Sun Nov 30, 2014 9:01 am

Great job, Ray. The pop-up text and the musical soundtrack perfectly compliment your fine camera work.
Some of the same morons who throw their trash around in National parks also vote. That alone would explain the state of American politics. ~ John Gierach, "Still Life with Brook Trout"
User avatar
gingerdun
Posts: 1585
Joined: Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:00 pm
Location: Merrimac, Massachusetts

Re: Jim Slattery Demonstrating Leisenring Dubbing Technique

Post by gingerdun » Mon Dec 01, 2014 2:29 pm

Ray,
This makes it look so simple—both spinning the body on the knee, and making a video.
Great work, and invaluable to now have this video out there on YouTube.
Lance
User avatar
Ron Eagle Elk
Posts: 1438
Joined: Sun Feb 22, 2009 12:33 am
Location: Carmel, Maine

Re: Jim Slattery Demonstrating Leisenring Dubbing Technique

Post by Ron Eagle Elk » Thu Dec 04, 2014 11:25 am

Nice to watch Jim tie again. Very well done video, Ray.
"A man may smile and bid you hale yet curse you to the devil, but when a good dog wags his tail he is always on the level"
Jim Slattery
Site Admin
Posts: 327
Joined: Mon Feb 23, 2009 3:05 pm
Location: West Yellowstone, Montana
Contact:

Re: Jim Slattery Demonstrating Leisenring Dubbing Technique

Post by Jim Slattery » Thu Dec 04, 2014 6:09 pm

Just saw this. I have to thank you Ray for putting this together.
Unfortunately this technique is not the true Leisenring method. It is a technique, as best I can now recollect, that was shown to me when I first started seriously tying as a sophomore in high school 40 years ago by Roger George, the teacher who oversaw the school Fly Fishing club. As I got older and really studied the AoTWF, and in this case specifically the spun body, I reached in the back crevices of my memory of how I was shown this method and put it up to how I understood what was written in the Art of Tying the Wet Fly. This is the result.
After reading Leisenrings hand written manuscript about this technique I found the method I use to be erroneous. In the manuscript, Leisenring writes that you keep the thumb and index finger in place and you roll the thread at the top of the knee above the index finger 3 or 4 times and then lift the index finger while holding the spun thread taught. The results are same as the dubbing block.
The results of the "modified Leisenring dubbing loop" are a bit different as the dubbing is somewhat compressed by the application of friction as you roll the loop on the pant leg. It tends to form a hollow cylindrical loop yet retains some of the spikiness that can be found in the regular method. When wet and in light you can really see a "glow" as the light bounces off of the dubbing fibers and the under color of the thread. The modified method also uses a little less dubbing than the regular method as the modified technique tends to add "volume" to the dubbing being used.
Jim
Post Reply