Folded quill winged wet flies

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Folded quill winged wet flies

Post by ForumGhillie » Sat Nov 10, 2018 6:37 pm

Someone posted on another thread about they used to fold the quill into two sides rather than using a pair of quill slips for the wing. So I tried it with a turkey quill on a larger fly pattern and it works pretty darn good. It is certainly faster than spending time matching quill slips.

Obviously, i have to wait until next trout season to try it during a hatch to see how effective it is.
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Re: Folded quill winged wet flies

Post by Boarmountain » Sun Nov 11, 2018 12:24 am

That will work just as well as a matched slip wing. Good looking fly!
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Re: Folded quill winged wet flies

Post by tie2fish » Sun Nov 11, 2018 7:59 am

Can't imagine those not working; great tying for someone that old ;) .
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Re: Folded quill winged wet flies

Post by Mike62 » Sun Nov 11, 2018 8:34 am

I've been folding my wings forever because the whole 'matching slip' thing has always escaped me. All these years of practice and I still can't match what you apparently just sat down and pulled off at a single setting. Those flies are sublime, seriously. I made myself feel like a second class tier for years because I've had to make concessions to time honored methods that are simply above my pay grade. Folding my wings was one such concession.

...I don't feel so bad anymore. Thank you.
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Re: Folded quill winged wet flies

Post by Old Hat » Sun Nov 11, 2018 9:30 am

Those turned out excellent! I love the looks of the whole pattern.

The only time I do a matched slip is with feathers that are a little more structured or (stiff). Any of the softer feathers used for wing I much prefer folding. On the smaller flies, folding is the way to go. Many of the older and smaller patterns that were winged had their wings made by folding twice and then split which is how I do all the wings on small flies especially the ones that use soft fibers like starling. You see this more on traditional spiders where the fly retains a more simplistic and sparse appearance.

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Re: Folded quill winged wet flies

Post by ForumGhillie » Sun Nov 11, 2018 10:14 am

Thanks for all the feedback

Mike62, I don't tie flies for art or for humans. I tie them for the trout I hope to entice into taking my fly. I remember the flies I tied when I was 12 with sewing thread, clothespin and some feathers, quills, dubbing. They were horrible but if presented right they caught trout.

I just can't believe all the years I painstakingly cut and matched quill slips. This is definitely a lot easier and I am sure the trout will not know the difference.

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Re: Folded quill winged wet flies

Post by upstatetrout » Sun Nov 11, 2018 10:34 am

Try it with barred wood duck or teal or bronzed mallard.



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Re: Folded quill winged wet flies

Post by ForumGhillie » Sun Nov 11, 2018 11:30 am

upstatetrout wrote:
Sun Nov 11, 2018 10:34 am
Try it with barred wood duck or teal or bronzed mallard.

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Thanks, Tom.

That is tougher than I thought it would be. If I cut a large slip or fold it over the stem it still is sort of difficult to marry them together. I almost think for flank feathers using two slips is easier. Any tips?

John
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Re: Folded quill winged wet flies

Post by upstatetrout » Sun Nov 11, 2018 1:02 pm

John try using a wider slip and folding twice. Ive even seen it done folding 3 times on a large fly.

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Re: Folded quill winged wet flies

Post by Theroe » Tue Nov 13, 2018 7:01 am

John
Glad to hear of your success with the folded wing. For me, it sounds odd that so many haven’t used nor heard of the folded wing: this method is a staple of eastern Pennsylvania tyers. Actually, this is the first winging method Ivan taught me. It works excellent with the “forward and split technique as well.

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