Folded quill winged wet flies

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Re: Folded quill winged wet flies

Post by upstatetrout » Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:53 pm

Bill in the fly tying world that is known as free lancing. Indeed in competions they have catagories that are named this. I have known artists of stature i.e.
Artists,illustrators,musicians that tie flies. With that said there could be individuals who are artists dealing in hooks,feathers and furs. A great artist/illustrator who failed was Louis Rhead and his nature flies. His book
Trout Stream Insects had illustrations of insects and flies with names that he made up. No one knew what he was talking about but on the other hand there was John Atherton's book The Fly and the Fish which was a great success. He numbered his flies 1 through 7 much easier to remember.

Any ways thanks for the dissertation. We argue to see who is right but we discuss to see what is right.

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Re: Folded quill winged wet flies

Post by wsbailey » Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:03 pm

Most modern classic salmon flies are tied as wall hangers. In most cases they aren't practical for fishing because of the silk gut loop. The silk gut used to extend to the bend of the hook but due to cost only a short amount is used these days.
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Re: Folded quill winged wet flies

Post by upstatetrout » Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:24 pm

They are wall hangers. In 40 years of pursuing this sport I cannot think of a time when a full dress Jock Scott would have saved the day.

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Re: Folded quill winged wet flies

Post by wsbailey » Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:02 pm

George Kelson came to the conclusion that salmon had become so accustomed to Jock Scott flies that he designed a new fly using the rarest feathers. The fly, called Inky Boy, was one reason that classic salmon flies lost out to more modern flies. It was really all about the sense of privilege that gave them appeal. Only the wealthiest sports could afford them. Such flies had detractors even from their earliest days. I'm squarely
on the side of the detractors.
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Re: Folded quill winged wet flies

Post by ForumGhillie » Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:17 pm

Guys, please stay on topic.

You could discuss this in the "Fishing Cabin" forum. ;)

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Re: Folded quill winged wet flies

Post by upstatetrout » Tue Nov 13, 2018 4:31 pm

O.K.
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Re: Folded quill winged wet flies

Post by FliTrap » Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:14 pm

I too, have passed over the activity of tying matched slip winged wet flies, opting for rolled, bunched, folded or wingless.... My question is simply, don't they all start looking alike after chewed over a few times by a trout (or other fined critter)? The others tend to start all looking much the same in looking at used winged flies!
I do like the looks of the matched wings, but often find it frustrating to cut, match and set opposite matched feathers! After all, whole feathers taken from matched positions (Left /right) of a bird may not match in shade or color.
Just wondering.... what the rest of you experience after your fishing fly is well chewed. Personally
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