Kimono/Pearsall coordinated numbers

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Re: Kimono/Pearsall coordinated numbers

Post by Old Hat » Fri Jan 10, 2020 7:56 am

daringduffer wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 6:42 am
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Plus when using a block to make dubbing ropes any slight color difference is really negated since most of it is covered by dubbing.
This has to be very true. Also, when subsurface, that small difference should be minor too. At least to a human eye. Good work, Carl. How big is the difference between Pearsall's no 5 Yellow and closest Kimono? I prefer well waxed no 5 to well waxed no 3.

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I don't have any to compare Stephan. Looking at the two color charts I have (and I have gotten better at comparing on the charts since I have the real thing of many of the colors) I would say that the Kimono 302 Origami would probably be the best match. I have some Pearsall's yellow here at home but I don't know if I have #4 or #5. I don't have both.
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Re: Kimono/Pearsall coordinated numbers

Post by daringduffer » Fri Jan 10, 2020 11:00 am

Carl, I must have been still half asleep. I meant I prefer a well waxed no 4, Light yellow, to a well waxed no 3, primrose. I think it was Gwilym Hughes who suggested this practise and I tried it I liked the resulting olive colour. I will put up a link to a disgusting Dry fly tying video by him in the Cabin. I found him when I was looking for 'cobblers wax' way back then. He was a successful competition fly fisherman and author. (Maybe not that successful as an author).

(I suppose your Pearsall's yellow is no 4,5 and is the only spool of that shade. It is unique! ;) ).

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Re: Kimono/Pearsall coordinated numbers

Post by ForumGhillie » Fri Jan 10, 2020 8:39 pm

Just an FYI.. I have been tying size #20 spiders with YLI silk, starling feather and Bailey's wax with no issues and body is not bulky at all.
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Re: Kimono/Pearsall coordinated numbers

Post by Old Hat » Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:36 am

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Fri Jan 10, 2020 8:39 pm
Just an FYI.. I have been tying size #20 spiders with YLI silk, starling feather and Bailey's wax with no issues and body is not bulky at all.
Oh, I don't think there is a problem doing it with YLI, Pearsall's or any of the others just I have grown to prefer the Kimono for it.

This was not a post to promote one over another just to supply information.
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Re: Kimono/Pearsall coordinated numbers

Post by ronr » Sat Jan 11, 2020 11:36 am

I too have begun to tie more with YLI since I found a local supply, a certain member of the forum persuaded one of the local quilting shops to carry a large number of the YLI colors, Carl.. do you know, or do you care, what is the difference in diameter of the YLI vs.Kimono? and can the Kimono be split easily?
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Re: Kimono/Pearsall coordinated numbers

Post by Roadkill » Sat Jan 11, 2020 1:30 pm

Thanks Carl!!

But now I have to order more silk and a few bobbins!! ;) :lol:
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Re: Kimono/Pearsall coordinated numbers

Post by Old Hat » Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:07 pm

ronr wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2020 11:36 am
I too have begun to tie more with YLI since I found a local supply, a certain member of the forum persuaded one of the local quilting shops to carry a large number of the YLI colors, Carl.. do you know, or do you care, what is the difference in diameter of the YLI vs.Kimono? and can the Kimono be split easily?
To be honest, the specific diameter measurements don’t matter to me. It does split fine. It is a two strand thread not 3 like the Pearsall’s.
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Re: Kimono/Pearsall coordinated numbers

Post by jcwillow777 » Sat Jan 11, 2020 10:58 pm

Thanks for posting this Carl. Great info and pics!
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Re: Kimono/Pearsall coordinated numbers

Post by Roadkill » Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:50 pm

wsbailey wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2020 7:08 pm
Thanks Carl. Here’s a source for large thread bobbins if you need them.

https://www.mudhole.com/Extra-Large-Thread-Bobbin
My silk and bobbins arrived together yesterday. But I find the large thread bobbins which are about 5 1/2" from center of the spool to tip and 2 inches wide with the spool inserted unwieldy in my hand for tying small flies.

The mudhole bobbin is on the left and my usual bobbin/Piersall's on the right.
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Re: Kimono/Pearsall coordinated numbers

Post by wsbailey » Fri Jan 17, 2020 2:40 pm

After I posted the link to the Mudhole bobbin I discovered that Griffin made a rod wrapping bobbin with ceramic insert. The trouble is it doesn't seem to be available anymore.
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