Head Cement; I need a New Source

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Re: Head Cement; I need a New Source

Post by letumgo » Wed Feb 23, 2022 9:10 pm

Thanks John. :D
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Re: Head Cement; I need a New Source

Post by tworod » Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:54 am

Cellire is varnish and here is the gold standard of varnish.
If you use varnish throughout the tying process flies become bomb proof. This includes swiping your tying thread with varnish before applying dubbing. It is the easiest way to dub seal's fur.
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Re: Head Cement; I need a New Source

Post by letumgo » Thu Feb 24, 2022 11:17 am

Do you use a bodkin for this process?
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Re: Head Cement; I need a New Source

Post by Theroe » Thu Feb 24, 2022 2:09 pm

Rumpf is great stuff.... cut with lacquer thinner

Shellac - thin with alcohol
Soft and wet - the only way....
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Re: Head Cement; I need a New Source

Post by Theroe » Thu Feb 24, 2022 2:09 pm

tworod wrote: Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:54 am Cellire is varnish and here is the gold standard of varnish.
If you use varnish throughout the tying process flies become bomb proof. This includes swiping your tying thread with varnish before applying dubbing. It is the easiest way to dub seal's fur.
Man O War is the best !!
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Re: Head Cement; I need a New Source

Post by JohnMD1022 » Thu Feb 24, 2022 6:40 pm

letumgo wrote: Wed Feb 23, 2022 9:10 pmThanks John. :D
I had to correct that.

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Re: Head Cement; I need a New Source

Post by tworod » Thu Feb 24, 2022 10:43 pm

letumgo wrote: Thu Feb 24, 2022 11:17 am Do you use a bodkin for this process?
Yes, just run the bodkin along the thread when dubbing. I use varnish throughout a fly using my bodkin to apply a touch at all critical steps.
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Re: Head Cement; I need a New Source

Post by bearbutt » Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:50 pm

tworod wrote: Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:54 am Cellire is varnish and here is the gold standard of varnish.

I'm no chemist, but Cellire and Spar Varnish are as far as I can tell very different things. Man-o-War spar has a mineral spirits base; Cellire has toluene. Perhaps someone which a chemical engineering background can explain this with more clarity--and also outline the toxicity risks.

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Re: Head Cement; I need a New Source

Post by JohnMD1022 » Wed Mar 23, 2022 4:39 pm

After looking around a bit, I found the Windsor Newton varnish is about $3 cheaper than at the art stores.

That Wapsi applicator looks neat, but not at the $9.49 Bass Pro Shop wants, or the $8.50 from Orvis.

Flymasters.com sells it for $1.99.

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Re: Head Cement; I need a New Source

Post by JohnMD1022 » Wed Mar 23, 2022 4:41 pm

The varnish from Hobby Lobby.
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