Tying with Scrap Feathers

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Tying with Scrap Feathers

Post by WiFlyfisher » Sun Nov 04, 2018 4:54 pm

A wingless wet pattern I have been playing with lately is using what I call the scrap feathers on the back of some of my saddles and capes I own. The feathers to me have never had any use before. They are very webby and soft, but some of the feather colors look perfect to me to mimic mayfly wings on soft hackle patterns.

I have never seen anyone use them or mention them. So has anyone else tried using them?
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Re: Tying with Scrap Feathers

Post by Boarmountain » Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:09 am

Yes, I've used them. "Mini" schlappen. I use them on wooly buggers and some other patterns.

On a side note, what hook is that?
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Re: Tying with Scrap Feathers

Post by WiFlyfisher » Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:22 am

Mike,

I am trying some Ahrex FW521 barbless hooks. I just like the look with the slightly upturned eye.

I will have to try them on buggers too. I have a ton of these feathers on a bunch of old saddles. I like how soft the barbs are, they should move really well in the water.

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Re: Tying with Scrap Feathers

Post by tie2fish » Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:55 am

Like Mike B., I have used them on buggers and also on featherwing streamers like Lefty's Deceiver. But I really like John's idea of trying them as collar hackle to produce ultra-soft spider patterns.
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Re: Tying with Scrap Feathers

Post by letumgo » Mon Nov 05, 2018 8:50 pm

Yes. I’ve used these feathers too. One of the things I like about them is the triangular taper of the hackle length. It gives the fly a nice profile (larger in front and narrow at back. I like to strip the fibers from one side, so I can adjust the hackle density by adjusting the spacing of my wraps.
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Re: Tying with Scrap Feathers

Post by Old Hat » Tue Nov 06, 2018 10:04 am

I'm like Bill, I use them mostly for buggers and featherwing streamers. I have used them as hackle to both on wingless and winged wets as well as for steelhead hackle.
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Re: Tying with Scrap Feathers

Post by Mike62 » Wed Nov 07, 2018 4:42 pm

We actually use a lot of those particular feathers up here; trolling streamers behind the ol' square stern after ice out is eagerly anticipated every spring. Trout and salmon teeth peel the hide right off those feathers so we go through a lot of them.
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Re: Tying with Scrap Feathers

Post by letumgo » Wed Nov 07, 2018 8:12 pm

Mike,

I think we have a lot in common, in terms of experience. I too have fished at ice out, trolling streamers to catch trout and salmon in the Adirondacks. Sounds very similar to me
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Re: Tying with Scrap Feathers

Post by Mike62 » Sun Nov 11, 2018 7:37 am

letumgo wrote:
Wed Nov 07, 2018 8:12 pm
Mike,

I think we have a lot in common, in terms of experience. I too have fished at ice out, trolling streamers to catch trout and salmon in the Adirondacks. Sounds very similar to me
This year spring never showed up. Ice out up here was the second week in May and even then it kept thinking about freezing up for another month. I used to think ever streamer I tied had to be Carrie Stevens worthy; somehow you get it into your head that being from Maine you need to 'represent' the brand with flawless ties.

I like Fran Betters. Most of my streamers have far more in common with his tying philosophy than with Carrie's. I save scrap feathers now specifically for spring streamers, they work just fine and I'm not making myself neurotic anymore.
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