Making Organza Ribbon Hackle.

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Re: Making Organza Ribbon Hackle.

Post by Hard Times Angler » Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:58 am

In this video, Mcphail wraps an organza abdomen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9-EuNpNHJo

I think it looks ok mainly because he uses such a large hook. In more realistic pupa sizes, say #18 to # 14, I'm not so sure how well it would come out. You would have to choose your organza very carefully.

Further, he continues adding all kinds of stuff resulting in a rather overdressed fly--even in the larger size.
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Re: Making Organza Ribbon Hackle.

Post by hankaye » Tue Dec 11, 2012 11:05 am

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Re: Making Organza Ribbon Hackle.

Post by Mataura mayfly » Tue Dec 11, 2012 2:35 pm

Hard Times Angler wrote:In this video, Mcphail wraps an organza abdomen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9-EuNpNHJo

I think it looks ok mainly because he uses such a large hook. In more realistic pupa sizes, say #18 to # 14, I'm not so sure how well it would come out. You would have to choose your organza very carefully.

Further, he continues adding all kinds of stuff resulting in a rather overdressed fly--even in the larger size.
Welcome along to the forum.

Whilst all the above rings true, kind of, I posted the original instruction as more of a collar than body palmer hackle. However as you point out it can be used for a tapering body hackle on larger flies as Davie very eloquently shows in the video clip. I do not recall anyone suggesting the method for #14-18 pupa, but if you can find the correct gauge ribbon I wouldn't mind seeing your efforts.

To many of us that particular fly may seem over dressed, but I think Davie has a fair grasp of patterns and proportions of local patterns, especially fuller dressed Loch, Lough and Reservoir patterns of Scotland, Ireland and Britain. A lot of these patterns seem to the rest of us used to tiny midges and dry fly patterns to be a jumble of materials- as much as you can get on a hook shank, but they work and are time honoured fish taking patterns that work well for the intended purpose.
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Re: Making Organza Ribbon Hackle.

Post by Boris » Fri Dec 14, 2012 5:16 pm

Hi Jeff,

I've used it to make wings for spent spinners, nice material too.
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Re: Making Organza Ribbon Hackle.

Post by Mataura mayfly » Fri Dec 14, 2012 5:20 pm

Boris wrote:Hi Jeff,

I've used it to make wings for spent spinners, nice material too.

Yep, spinner wings, upright wings- (heck you can even burn wings out of it), tails, hackles or just added to a dubbing mix for a bit of flash. It is handy, cheap and easy to find...... just see how much you can pick up over Christmas..... you would be amazed what comes with a bit of ribbon on it these days! :D
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Re: Making Organza Ribbon Hackle.

Post by Boris » Fri Dec 14, 2012 5:26 pm

Yes, I've used frayed it into single strands like you have shown and tied the strands as splayed wings. It comes in some really nice colours and shades.
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