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Re: Grouse and Flash

Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 10:08 am
by joaniebo
Did these awhile back:

Re: Grouse and Flash

Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 11:37 am
by letumgo
Gorgeous! You should join our swap. :D

Or you could just send me a dozen... :twisted: (kidding)

Re: Grouse and Flash

Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 11:46 am
by joaniebo
letumgo wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 11:37 am
Gorgeous! You should join our swap. :D

Or you could just send me a dozen... :twisted: (kidding)
Ray

Don't know how many of these I have left but drop me a PM and I'll mail you some of my old (heavilty hackled) soft hackles, ok?

Bob

Re: Grouse and Flash

Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 6:10 pm
by hankaye
joaniebo, Howdy;

:shock: oooooooow, pretty, pretty, with me come my precious .

hank

Re: Grouse and Flash

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:22 pm
by Bazzer69
Why not flat silver tinsel instead of Mylar? I think it would be better proportioned in a shorter shanked hook.
Just how I might tie it.
Barry

Re: Grouse and Flash

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:43 am
by Theroe
letumgo wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 11:37 am
Gorgeous! You should join our swap. :D

Or you could just send me a dozen... :twisted: (kidding)
+1


and you CAN send me a dozen....NOT Kidding :o :o :o

Re: Grouse and Flash

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 8:12 am
by Ron Eagle Elk
Barry, I can only assume here, that the OP chose the Pearl Mylar because it's semi transparent, picking up the subtle hues of the underlying material, whether that's a bare hook shank, thread, etc. Personally, I think it works.

As to the shorter shanked hook, I'd have to see a side by side comparison. I do tend to tie on 1x short hooks myself, but that's just personal preference.

Re: Grouse and Flash

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 11:33 am
by Roadkill
I use Opal and Pearl Mylar as Ron said because of the translucent effect and also because of the iridescent color effect of the material. The Opal, Pearl and Holographic mylars offer a different flash than plain old tinsels.

I tie with metal tinsels as well as older Mylar silver and gold flat tinsels, also the newer Mylar with one color on one side and something different on the other. Over 60 years ago at my first tying lesson, I learned that a change in color, size and shape of my tinsel or wire ribs could change my catch rate on a dubbed nymph with the same body. That same lesson came with my first instruction in making dubbing and wet blending furs in a coffee can to achieve the color I wanted. This was followed up that summer by fishing those same flies with my tying mentor and learning about depth control and different retrieves.

Re: Grouse and Flash

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 10:59 pm
by Bazzer69
I was fishing today on the Sacramento River for one or two Sac Footballs i today and in the past have experimented with Mylar vs Tinsel’s. Guess which wins hands down, not the flashy flies. My copies of Frank Sawyer PT’s work great as well as a Birds Nest. The flashiest fly I have success on is a Prince Nymph, even then I cut the biots way back.
I’m guide, have been for twenty six years, if anyone want to come and prove me wrong your trip is on me. If I win you donate my regular fee to our local club! I just don’t get the how and why flashy flies work in trout. Maybe bass or other predators but not around here in northern Californian. I’ve never seen a Caddis fly or a nymph wearing a diamond ring. The magic bullets of flies were mainly discovered many years ago.
Anyone up for the challenge?
Barry

Re: Grouse and Flash

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 11:13 pm
by DUBBN
Bazzer69 wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 10:59 pm
I was fishing today on the Sacramento River for one or two Sac Footballs i today and in the past have experimented with Mylar vs Tinsel’s. Guess which wins hands down, not the flashy flies. My copies of Frank Sawyer PT’s work great as well as a Birds Nest. The flashiest fly I have success on is a Prince Nymph, even then I cut the biots way back.
I’m guide, have been for twenty six years, if anyone want to come and prove me wrong your trip is on me. If I win you donate my regular fee to our local club! I just don’t get the how and why flashy flies work in trout. Maybe bass or other predators but not around here in northern Californian. I’ve never seen a Caddis fly or a nymph wearing a diamond ring. The magic bullets of flies were mainly discovered many years ago.
Anyone up for the challenge?
Barry
I would love to.
In a room full of 100 people know how to pick out the guide? Wait 30 seconds, he will tell you.