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Grouse Spider Variant
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 9:29 am
by GlassJet
Hi folks,
Another one for the river:
#14 wet hook, Silk: Orange Pearsall's well waxed with dark wax. Abdomen: Split thread, lightly dubbed with water rat substitute. Tag: Tying silk. Rib: Fine gold wire. Thorax: blend of Hare's ear and fiery brown seal's fur. Hackle: Grouse.
Andrew.
Re: Grouse Spider Variant
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:06 am
by Ron Eagle Elk
Absolutely top notch. What are you using for water rat sub?
REE
Re: Grouse Spider Variant
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:50 am
by chase creek
Great looking tie. Really like the dubbing.
What is it?
Re: Grouse Spider Variant
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 12:44 pm
by GlassJet
Ron Eagle Elk wrote:What are you using for water rat sub?
REE
Thanks! Water rat sub is sold as such from Cookshill Fly Tying materials...
http://www.cookshill-flytying.co.uk/index.htm
I can't remember exactly what it is, but I think Steve there said it was some kind of small squirrel? Not expensive...
If I hadn't got any, I would have used mole. Mole would be ok, but this stuff doesn't tend to clump together as much as mole, so I reckon it will move better in the water.
Andrew.
Re: Grouse Spider Variant
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 1:28 pm
by Old Hat
Top notch pattern Andrew, well tied. That would be a great pattern for our spring march browns.
Re: Grouse Spider Variant
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 7:51 pm
by CreationBear
Beautiful fly! A question for you, though: are some "red grouse" redder than others? It might be just the warm lighting in your image (or my incipient "materials envy"
) but that hackle seems to have more of an orange-y glow compared to the mahogany of my bulk packaged feathers.
Re: Grouse Spider Variant
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 9:17 pm
by hankaye
Looks like you are going through a "Buggy" phase... good lookin' batch, keep'em commin'.
Re: Grouse Spider Variant
Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:40 am
by tie2fish
CreationBear wrote:Beautiful fly! A question for you, though: are some "red grouse" redder than others? It might be just the warm lighting in your image (or my incipient "materials envy"
) but that hackle seems to have more of an orange-y glow compared to the mahogany of my bulk packaged feathers.
The "red" (English) grouse skins I've seen have both of these colors plus others. The smaller "orange-y" ones are up near the neck area, while the mahogany shades are farther down on the back.
Re: Grouse Spider Variant
Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:24 am
by GlassJet
CreationBear wrote:Beautiful fly! A question for you, though: are some "red grouse" redder than others? It might be just the warm lighting in your image (or my incipient "materials envy"
) but that hackle seems to have more of an orange-y glow compared to the mahogany of my bulk packaged feathers.
Hi,
I may have been a little over-zealous when manipulating the colour balance in the RAW file, but I don't think it is too far off. Or not to my eye - and on *my* screen of course (as opposed to yours) which can make a difference...
Got this skin from Cookshill - off the Scottish estates, I believe.
Andrew.
Re: Grouse Spider Variant
Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 11:16 am
by CreationBear
tie2/glassjet: thanks so much for elaborating...I'm thinking an English grouse skin has gone into my "must-have" category.