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Emerald Spider

Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 1:25 am
by Hans Weilenmann
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Emerald Spider
Hook: Partridge BMN (Big Mouth Nymph) #14
Thread: Benecchi 12/0, black
Hackle: Grouse
Abdomen: Strands from Guttermann ribbon floss, emerald green metallic (#144F-6), tied flat
Rib: Strands from Guttermann ribbon floss, emerald green metallic (#144F-6), corded
Thorax: UV Ice Dub, ginger; rabbit, olive - mixed

Cheers,
Hans W

Re: Emerald Spider

Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 7:03 am
by chase creek
Very nice looking fly. really like the choice of hook.
thanks for posting.

Re: Emerald Spider

Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 7:39 am
by William Anderson
that is a cool hook. I can imagine if a trout sipped that in and tried to let it go there might be some difficulty.

Does anyone think the amount of mass of the hook vs the amount of mass of the pattern will make a difference? I'm sure this would be an effective combination, but sitting at the vise I would wonder if the profile of the hook would overwhelm the profile of the pattern. Any thoughts?

Hans' you know me well enough to know that's not a knock on your fly, just trying to spawn a conversation. It's a nice fly even with all the synthetics. :D

w

Re: Emerald Spider

Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 9:23 am
by Hans Weilenmann
William,

Most of my wingless wets are tied on fine to medium wire hooks, to be fished in the film of just under.

Sometimes, though, I want a fly to rapidly sink. Rather than add weight to the fly, I choose to use heavy wire compact hooks for the purpose. The Emerald Spider - heavy hook, slim outline, mobile hackle - is one example. The Depth Charge another. Form follows function 8-)

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Depth Charge (red)

Cheers,
Hans W

Re: Emerald Spider

Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 10:47 am
by Klaas
Noticed something fishing with tiny small dries,fish took a look and turned back.
Whas very frustrating so tried everything dry but no sucses,then a small wet that whas a bit bigger then the dry fly.
When the wet fly whas in the film or just under they took it without any doubt.
It where just midges dancing above the water and they did rise to take em from the water,happend also with small sedges,the fish did rise to take em but no sucses with dries but when i put on a snipe and purple they took it like a dry fly.
So i dont think that the amount of mass of the hook vs the amount of mass of the pattern will make a difference (or maybe i tie realy bad dries :lol: ).
Hooks i use on wets are mostly bigger then i use on dries,dont think fish sees the hook as something "dangerous"or that the immitation is not "right"to the insects hes feeding on.
Also it depends on what materials are used,a bit more hackle(bird ;) ) seems no harm to me,and what insect are you trying to immitate ofcourse.
Dont like tomuch synthetic materials for a body,it doesnt wear of like natural material and a fly that has catched a few fish seems to get better and better even when it looks like it had its best time.

Klaas