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Re: Yorkshire Spider (John Shaner's Collection)

Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 7:20 pm
by Smuggler
I can distinguish some sort of ribbing on the "Hare's Lug and Plover" it doesn't look to be gold though. Maybe it's just faded though.

The second fly, I really enjoy herl incorporated into North Country spiders and to see this ancient little gem with a herl head is just awesome.

This thread is just awesome, can't wait to get my hands on this book!

Re: Yorkshire Spider (John Shaner's Collection)

Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 4:49 pm
by letumgo
And now for a little more history. Here is a 1914 news paper clipping about the late Henry Walbran Cooper.

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Along with a couple photos of the original manuscripts.
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John - Can you give us a little background on these?

Re: Yorkshire Spider (John Shaner's Collection)

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 11:12 am
by letumgo
And here is another pair of original Yorkshire spiders.
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John - What can you tell us about these two spiders? What is the red strand hanging off the top fly? Is this silk floss, that has been broken due to fishing? Did this pattern have a red silk head (sort of like a colorful hotspot)? Are the two fly patterns the same?

I like how you can see how the silk gut is tyed onto the hook shank.

Re: Yorkshire Spider (John Shaner's Collection)

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 6:18 pm
by William Anderson
In my search for the Forgotten Flymphs Swap, came across this excellent thread where Philip Bailey shows an exceptional P&O, which John must have shared with him before I know who John was or had any idea the scope of the collection he was holding. :D Scroll to the second page to see Johnno's contribution of vintage flies he believes tied by Walbran in 1899 in the hand. No matter the hand, these vintage flies are extraordinary examples of the period.

http://www.flymphforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=843

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Re: Yorkshire Spider (John Shaner's Collection)

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 6:43 pm
by Old Hat
Nice find William and a great post to link it to.

Re: Yorkshire Spider (John Shaner's Collection)

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 12:41 pm
by Greenwell
William,

I'd never seen that thread, must have been before I joined the Forum.

The old flies are exquisite, just the way I like to see them. I believe that they may be from the early 20th century as evidenced by the eyed hooks. Somewhere in my things I have several labeled packets of spiders very similar to these. The box they are in dates to the 1920's and my best guess is that the flies and box were sold together as none of the flies show any sign of use. As if someone filled a box in a tackle shop and then put it away. I'm away for work this week but will take a look at them when I get home.

Thank you for the link, it was a nice break to see something this pleasant during a busy week.

Re: Yorkshire Spider (John Shaner's Collection)

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 12:42 pm
by letumgo
I bumped this topic, due to the current discussion about silk gut leader material.

Re: Yorkshire Spider (John Shaner's Collection)

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 8:26 pm
by Smuggler
letumgo wrote:I bumped this topic, due to the current discussion about silk gut leader material.
And for the fact that it's pure gold.

Re: Yorkshire Spider (John Shaner's Collection)

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 10:57 am
by jcwillow777
Thanks for posting and bumping this post. John is the reason I found this site. Cool stuff.