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Dun Spider (variant) - (Tutorial / SBS)

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 11:53 am
by Hans Weilenmann
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Dun Spider (variant)
Hook: Kamasan B175 #14
Thread: Pearsall's Gossamer, orange
Body: Tying silk - kept very short
Hackle: Hackle, blue dun - twisted together with tying thread before wrapping

Note: With a nod and a wink in the Stewart's Black Spider direction

Cheers,
Hans W

Re: Dun Spider (variant)

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 12:22 pm
by dwiltshire
Very skillful Hans. The hackle looks quite stiff here - is it?

I love this style - exceptionally effective; well executed 8-)

Re: Dun Spider (variant)

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 12:26 pm
by Hans Weilenmann
Dave,

Dun color barbs tend to show thinner, more spiky, on images compared to how they feel in hand. Pretty soft hen, but not totally webby - that might account for it.

Cheers,
Hans W

Re: Dun Spider (variant)

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 2:26 pm
by letumgo
Hans - Could you tye another and take a couple photos during the tying process? I would like to see where you are tying in the feather and how your wrapping the hackle feather around the tying thread. Do you think this technique will make the fly any more durable than wrapping the hackle backwards and running the tread through the hackle?

Re: Dun Spider (variant)

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 3:35 pm
by Hans Weilenmann
Ray,

I will remember to snap pix when doing some more, but probably quite easy to follow this.

Attach thread/silk near eye and run touching turns to quarter shank.

Take hen hackle, pull barbs perpendicular except for very tip. Strip lower section to have bare stem.

Trap tip of hackle, butt pointing out over the bend of the hook, and run touching turns of tread to center of shank, cinching down the hackle. Trim away any exposed hackle tip.

Pull hackle perpendicular to shank and wrap a few more touching turns of thread towards bend and back to hackle. These wraps of thread form a very short body section.

Hackle and thread are now in same location. Clip on pliers trapping both thread and bare hackle stem, running parallel. Start twisting to form a 'brush'.

Wrap the hackle brush towards the eye of the hook, stroking back the barbs with each turn. I try to size it such that by the time I reach the eye of the hook, there is only bare stem left.

Disengage hackle pliers, tie down hackle stem, and make a neat head.

Done.

Additional options are to incorporate other materials, such as applying dubbing to the thread and then make the dubbing/hackle brush. Or include peacock herl, orstrich herl, or whatever else tickles your fancy.

As to your other question - one can of course wrap just hackle towards bend, and spiral thread back to eye, but the result is not quite the same in look & feel.

Tying is all about having choices, and selecting the one which serves the purpose for a specific pattern.

Cheers,
Hans W

Re: Dun Spider (variant)

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 4:38 pm
by letumgo
Thanks Hans. This is an excellent description of the tying sequence. In fact your instructions are as precise as you photography (compliment). I can clearly visualize the tying steps.

Re: Dun Spider (variant) - (Tutorial / SBS)

Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 4:06 am
by willowhead
Thankx guys...........VERY much ;)