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Re: Partridge & Yellow
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 4:06 pm
by PhilA
dd,
Thanks for that link and the correction about coch-y-bonddu dates. A fly identical to the Coch-y-Bonddu (peacock body, red-black hackle) goes under many different names well back into the 1700s. But, the name for the hackle and the Coch-y-Bonddu fly itself came later. The only thing more confusing than the hackle on a Greenwell's Glory is the spelling of "coch-y-bonddu"!
Phil
Re: Partridge & Yellow
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 5:21 pm
by Bazzer69
I’m wondering if there’s anyone that has a Coch-y-Bonddu cape that is willing to sell half a dozen feathers?
I’m guessing the spelling for Cochybondu might be Welsh, a strange language for this Englishman! Any Welshmen out there that could comment?
Cheers
Re: Partridge & Yellow
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 5:27 pm
by Bazzer69
Bazzer69 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 28, 2019 5:21 pm
I’m wondering if there’s anyone that has a Coch-y-Bonddu cape that is willing to sell half a dozen feathers?
I’m guessing the spelling for Cochybondu might be Welsh, a strange language for this Englishman! Any Welshmen out there that could comment?
Cheers
I might have answered this for myself with this result from a google search. Seems it might be Welsh for red with a black center. No mention of black tips, a red herring?( no pun intended)
https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/cockabondy
Re: Partridge & Yellow
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:25 pm
by wsbailey
Re: Partridge & Yellow
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 10:12 pm
by Old Hat
I have a Whiting Silver Grade Genetic Hen cape listed as furnace but is CBU. I found it on the wall the last time I was at Jim's. It must have slipped through when he was busy cooking.
Re: Partridge & Yellow
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 6:35 am
by daringduffer
Phil, I had no besserwisser intentions with my post, I just dug up previous discussions from the forum. I put in a lot of effort in typing that long quote from Elder since I have no scanner. Given the opportunity to recycle the post, I couldn't resist
. Regarding the spelling of c-y-b, I use several. Mostly the one that pops up first. I do think that the one Bill Bailey linked to is the one with most support today. So do you, as it seems
. Me too.
dd
Re: Partridge & Yellow
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 6:40 am
by daringduffer
Old Hat wrote: ↑Mon Jan 28, 2019 10:12 pm
I have a Whiting Silver Grade Genetic Hen cape listed as furnace but is CBU. I found it on the wall the last time I was at Jim's. It must have slipped through when he was busy cooking.
Very old hat, looks like some information is missing here; CBU - what does that mean? And your photo didn't show up.
CBU = c-y-b???
dd
Re: Partridge & Yellow
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 7:55 am
by daringduffer
Result of some more digging:
https://www.archive.org/stream/naturalt ... 5/mode/2up
Link to PDF version:
http://www.archive.org/details/naturalt ... 00westrich
(Recycling previous forum information).
Notice the shape of the cockerel hackle. Might this be a reason for Leisenring's/Hidy's appreciation of this stage of rooster hackles? Softness and shape?
And what has this to do with partridge or yellow? You tell me. I dig these swaying discussions.
dd
Re: Partridge & Yellow
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 9:57 am
by Old Hat
CBU - my own abbreviation because typing out the whole word declares war on my spell check.
I didn’t include a photo. The cape is not photogenic. I’m not a saver of material.
Re: Partridge & Yellow
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:39 am
by daringduffer
Old Hat wrote: ↑Tue Jan 29, 2019 9:57 am
CBU - my own abbreviation because typing out the whole word declares war on my spell check.
I didn’t include a photo. The cape is not photogenic. I’m not a saver of material.
Carl, I know you didn't include a photo but I was hoping for one since I am a curious person. And CBU worked fairly well since I guessed it meant c-y-b. And you are a user of material.
dd