duck hackle spiders

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duck hackle spiders

Post by CreationBear » Mon Jan 21, 2013 4:00 pm

I noticed that Nikolas had used a mallard feather on his great quill pattern, so it got me to thinking about alternatives to classic, "upland" gamebird hackles. Here a few with shoveller drake breast feathers (the abdomens I snagged from Ray's f̶i̶v̶e̶ ̶p̶o̶i̶n̶t̶ ̶p̶a̶l̶m̶ ̶e̶x̶p̶l̶o̶d̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶h̶e̶a̶r̶t̶ ̶t̶e̶c̶h̶n̶i̶q̶u̶e̶
UV resin/mylar tinsel experiments. :lol: )

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It will be interesting to see how these move in the water: on dry land at least I'd probably call these woodcook or snipe if I didn't know any better, so it might make for an interesting sub.
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Re: duck hackle spiders

Post by Izaak » Mon Jan 21, 2013 4:18 pm

The results look great! The body colors are terrific.
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Re: duck hackle spiders

Post by narcodog » Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:02 pm

They look like Irish flies.
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Re: duck hackle spiders

Post by Mataura mayfly » Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:13 pm

They do remind me of the Dabbler style Irish flies, they use bronze Mallard barbs rolled around the shank, not a wrapped feather. Lawrence Finney has a nice video on the technique on his website.

Very nice looking ties though. I use duck a lot, because it is easily gathered here in the Winter. Trouble is finding small feathers for say under #14 ties. The barbs are usually fatter/bulkier as well. But the do move well in the water, if a lttle inclined to "knit" back together.
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Re: duck hackle spiders

Post by Kelly L. » Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:05 pm

Nice flies. I love duck feathers...they are wonderful in fly tying. :D
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Re: duck hackle spiders

Post by CreationBear » Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:53 pm

Thanks guys--it's interesting too that duck feathers have a sheen to them, almost like that produced by the scales of a butterfly's wing...of course whether that's a trigger or a turn-off remains to be seen. :)
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Re: duck hackle spiders

Post by Kelly L. » Mon Jan 21, 2013 9:05 pm

Sheen is always a good thing for me. A duck feather is so versatile. I especially love all the flank feathers on a duck.
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Post by letumgo » Mon Jan 21, 2013 9:47 pm

Jon - Wholly smokes, those are incredible! You sure know how to wiggle your big toe! Beautifully tyed flies, every single one. The photographs are amazing too.

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Re: duck hackle spiders

Post by CreationBear » Mon Jan 21, 2013 10:12 pm

Kelly--I'm a big fan of duck flank as well, though the fibers really tend to marry if you don't burn them first--interesting that for these breast feathers at least, that's not the case--despite the pronounced barbicels. :)

BTW Ray, Tarantino usually manages to stick in a reference to his hometown of Knoxville in most of his movies, but I'm not remembering if that was the case in KB, vols. I & II. :)
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Re: duck hackle spiders

Post by redietz » Mon Jan 21, 2013 10:16 pm

Interesting that you should bring up duck at this particular moment. I tied my Tups for the swap with hackle from the coverts of mallard wings. It's a somewhat lighter dun than waterhen, and has (to my eye) more movement than poultry hackle.
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