Pearsalls Color Chart

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Re: Pearsalls Color Chart

Post by daringduffer » Fri Nov 08, 2019 2:05 pm

This chart is different:

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No 2, Straw
No 4, Light Yellow
No 6B, Sherry Spinner
No 10, Ash

Those are some of the differences. No 7, Blue in gossamer. You find the rest.

(No doesn't mean number, it means no. See?).

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Re: Pearsalls Color Chart

Post by daringduffer » Fri Nov 08, 2019 2:14 pm

This is a link to a conversion chart by Rob Smith from that other forum.
https://www.flyfishing.co.uk/fly-tying- ... ost2493138

https://www.flyfishing.co.uk/fly-tying- ... ive-2.html

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Re: Pearsalls Color Chart

Post by Bazzer69 » Fri Nov 08, 2019 5:28 pm

Here is. Pearsalls colour chart I found recently. It’s for embroidery silks but interestingly enough all the colour patches are of real silk thread. However none of the numbers seem to relate to Gossamer thread. I’m amazed at the large numbers of shades!
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Re: Pearsalls Color Chart

Post by driftless » Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:50 am

I've been searching for silks to substitute Pearsall's colors, too.

One I've found that is a VERY close sub for 6B Sherry Spinner is Kimono Silk thread #370 Teriyaki.

Take a look at it on line & see what you think.

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Re: Pearsalls Color Chart

Post by Old Hat » Tue Dec 31, 2019 3:55 pm

driftless wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:50 am I've been searching for silks to substitute Pearsall's colors, too.

One I've found that is a VERY close sub for 6B Sherry Spinner is Kimono Silk thread #370 Teriyaki.

Take a look at it on line & see what you think.

Paul
You are spot on Paul. I selected that as well for the best 6B substitute. I should have a good Kimono list up very soon. The Kimono #367 is also a great match sub for Ash.
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Re: Pearsalls Color Chart

Post by RobSmith1964 » Sun Jan 05, 2020 7:59 am

Pearsall Dye Card No.2 this is supposedly from where all the Gossamer shades originate. Interestingly, their gossamer shades subtly changed in the early 70's and then again in the early 80's when they also went over to plastic spools. I spoke with John Cunningham many years ago at the BFFI about his work at Pearsalls, and asked who was the the dyer employed previous to him. He stated there wasn't one!
Which leads me to thinking that they either stopped producing gossamer silks in the 70's, and took up production again in the 80's when John joined the company. Or that they were simply re-branding another company's silk and lost their suppliers in the 70's and 80's. Hence the subtle shade changes of these periods, not being able to get the originals, they get the nearest shades they can get, later employing John to get as close a colour match as he could. The whole purpose of having shade cards is to have perfect consistency of colour, something that doesn't happen with Pearsalls!
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Re: Pearsalls Color Chart

Post by driftless » Sun Jan 05, 2020 10:03 am

Thanks Rob, very revealing.

Here we've been working hard attempting to "match" Pearsall's original colors & they haven't even been doing it themselves.

Close enough is good enough, even in Horseshoes & Hand Grenades … and Pearsall's colors. ;)
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Re: Pearsalls Color Chart

Post by BrooksnBrowns » Sat Sep 04, 2021 8:51 pm

Is anyone familiar with the Langley Superfine Silk? Is it Pearsall’s under a different name or different altogether?

I have a spool with the color code LT1423. Looks like Primrose to me.

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Re: Pearsalls Color Chart

Post by Theroe » Mon Sep 06, 2021 8:48 am

ForumGhillie wrote: Sun Dec 02, 2018 9:04 am A question I often wanted to ask.... Why didn't Pearsall ever want to put the color number on each spool?

That certainly would have made things easier.

John
Good morning everyone

Yes I realize this is a late response to John’s question, however: I was in a thread shop in New York City last week which sold a brand of cotton thread sold in similar packaging to Pearsalls - I asked the shop owner why they didn’t label the individual spools of thread. Her answer to me was “most people that sew a lot purchase thread by the box. If you buy a single bobbin / spool YOU are supposed to remember the name of the color after it came out of the box!

That makes sense to me 😳

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Re: Pearsalls Color Chart

Post by ForumGhillie » Mon Sep 06, 2021 11:35 am

Theroe wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 8:48 am
ForumGhillie wrote: Sun Dec 02, 2018 9:04 am A question I often wanted to ask.... Why didn't Pearsall ever want to put the color number on each spool?

That certainly would have made things easier.

John
Good morning everyone

Yes I realize this is a late response to John’s question, however: I was in a thread shop in New York City last week which sold a brand of cotton thread sold in similar packaging to Pearsalls - I asked the shop owner why they didn’t label the individual spools of thread. Her answer to me was “most people that sew a lot purchase thread by the box. If you buy a single bobbin / spool YOU are supposed to remember the name of the color after it came out of the box!

That makes sense to me 😳

Dana
Dana, finally i got an answer almost 3 years later. Better late than never. Thank you!!
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