Chadwick's 477 Substitute?

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Re: Chadwick's 477 Substitute?

Post by jcwillow777 » Tue Nov 05, 2019 3:37 pm

joaniebo wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 3:07 pm
Here’s the link

https://youtu.be/uWxF_r5eLX8
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Re: Chadwick's 477 Substitute?

Post by FlyFisherMann1955 » Tue Nov 05, 2019 5:55 pm

Over on the Classic Fly Rod (Bamboo) Forum, there is a long-running (multi-year) post about Chadwick's 477 and its substitutes. Complete with pictures and names you will recognize................

Look here:

http://classicflyrodforum.com/forum/vie ... ck%27s+477

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Re: Chadwick's 477 Substitute?

Post by jcwillow777 » Tue Nov 05, 2019 6:22 pm

FlyFisherMann1955 wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 5:55 pm
Over on the Classic Fly Rod (Bamboo) Forum, there is a long-running (multi-year) post about Chadwick's 477 and its substitutes. Complete with pictures and names you will recognize................

Look here:

http://classicflyrodforum.com/forum/vie ... ck%27s+477

Tight Lines- Ken
Thanks Ken. Looks like a lot for me to go thru.

Finished going through it. Then I went back through it again. Wow, very informative. I never would have thought about using guitar pickup winding wire for tying flies. I've played guitar for 50+ years. Much cheaper in the long run. If they only made it in gold! Gonna order a spool of red. There will be enough left over for my grand kid's grand kids!
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Re: Chadwick's 477 Substitute?

Post by letumgo » Tue Nov 05, 2019 7:09 pm

Thanks Bob and Ken, for sharing the links. Very much appreciated. ;)
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Re: Chadwick's 477 Substitute?

Post by ronr » Wed Nov 06, 2019 10:19 am

I just read 5 pages of the other forum's discussion of Chadwicks, etc... I will go back and read the rest as the discussion is very interesting. Now for some blaspheming..... PhilA was kind enough to send me a very nice sample of the yarn and wire he has found for KB's. I spend some time trying to tie with the wire using the Edwards video as a guide. I must say, it was a steep learning curve to manage the wire. I also watched Davey McPhails version and tried that too. I fished with both and the fish didn't know the difference.
Now for the blasphemy.... I tied some with non-lead wire underbody...covered that with reddish threads, and OMG the fish ate them too...I'm sure they wouldn't pass muster with the traditional recipe and I haven't done a side by side comparison when wet, but what matters to me is will a fish eat one.mine were size 14 and 16s... the 16's worked better in my water...
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Re: Chadwick's 477 Substitute?

Post by wsbailey » Sun Nov 10, 2019 9:49 am

I just read on FB that Vicuña Dubbing is coming out with a new line of blends including a Chadwick’s 477 substitute. There’s not much information yet but I believe there will also be a Tup’s blend.
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Re: Chadwick's 477 Substitute?

Post by letumgo » Sun Nov 10, 2019 9:56 am

Please keep us updated, when these become available. Thank Bill.
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Re: Chadwick's 477 Substitute?

Post by jcwillow777 » Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:59 pm

letumgo wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2019 9:56 am
Please keep us updated, when these become available. Thank Bill.
What Ray said, please.
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Re: Chadwick's 477 Substitute?

Post by wsbailey » Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:08 pm

Get-slotted in the UK will be the first merchant to have it. I think it will be sold in an assortment box to start. They don’t have it yet.

http://get-slotted.co.uk/
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Re: Chadwick's 477 Substitute?

Post by joaniebo » Sun Nov 10, 2019 9:21 pm

Awhile back, I cut some of the Shetland SpIndrift 290 Oyster yarn into small pieces and blended it in an old coffeee grinder. Did a red wire underbody and then touch dubbed the blended yarn dubbing onto a Danville 6/0 red thread. Wehn dipped in water, a noticeable color change from a tan / brown dubbing into a tannish / pinkish color. Remember that a close up look at the Oyster 290 dubbing will reveal some red and green fibers within the twisted yarn.
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