Re: Muskrat
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 1:34 am
Doesn't seem Dubbn's wife thinks so! 
Vicki
Vicki
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Re: Muskrat
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 1:46 am
How come i aint surprised?
Re: Muskrat
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 1:50 am
Soon as you start thinking we're all alike you're in trouble!
Vicki
Re: Muskrat
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 2:08 am
We got one race.............HUMAN race................we got two species................men, and women............ 
HEY, who the hell ever put the WO on women anyway.............. 
HEY, who the hell ever put the WO on women anyway.............. Re: Muskrat
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 6:16 am
kanutripr wrote:It's nice to have a pic to go with the description. Good job...and nice fly.
Oh and did you know your vise was dirty?!?
Vicki
Grrrrrr!
Re: Muskrat
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 9:36 am
I thought I would display the results of a little research on Wikipedia.
The Water Rat Europe
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_water_vole
If anyone read "The Wind in the Willows", this is Ratty.
A very popular dubbing fur on the old Scottish and North country flies.
Banned now, but mole and others are ok.
The Musk Rat
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musk_rat
Easily available over here.
The Water Rat Europe
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_water_vole
If anyone read "The Wind in the Willows", this is Ratty.
A very popular dubbing fur on the old Scottish and North country flies.
Banned now, but mole and others are ok.
The Musk Rat
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musk_rat
Easily available over here.
Re: Muskrat
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 11:16 am
Donald, thanks for posting that. I was looking through the "Soft-Hackle List" that I put together a few years ago. I remembered that Hans was kind enough to provide some notes about species materials substitutions. You gave me a list of hackles and descriptions that were invaluable and Mike Connor decyphered the different thread and wool designations. Anyway, Hans said this about the water rat.
"** Note: Hans Weilenmann: Where “Water Rat” is referenced in patterns this generally refers to a critter called a Water Vole. The Water Vole (Arvicola terrestris) is a semi-aquatic mammal that resembles a rat. In fact, water voles have often been mis-termed, “water rats”. Water voles have rounder noses than rats, deep brown fur, chubby faces and short fuzzy ears; unlike the rat their tails, paws and ears are covered with hair. The Water Vole is a protected species, so substitute material may be required. A good substitute for water-rat would be Hare, Muskrat, or Mole. This of course depends on the location of the under fur.
I have a bunch of soft-hackles/flymphs tied with muskrat bodies. Great stuff.
w
"** Note: Hans Weilenmann: Where “Water Rat” is referenced in patterns this generally refers to a critter called a Water Vole. The Water Vole (Arvicola terrestris) is a semi-aquatic mammal that resembles a rat. In fact, water voles have often been mis-termed, “water rats”. Water voles have rounder noses than rats, deep brown fur, chubby faces and short fuzzy ears; unlike the rat their tails, paws and ears are covered with hair. The Water Vole is a protected species, so substitute material may be required. A good substitute for water-rat would be Hare, Muskrat, or Mole. This of course depends on the location of the under fur.
I have a bunch of soft-hackles/flymphs tied with muskrat bodies. Great stuff.
w
Re: Muskrat
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 2:08 pm
Tkx., to both Don and Bill.....
Re: Muskrat
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 2:22 pm
Ditto, and thanks for the information.willowhead wrote:Tkx., to both Don and Bill.....
Re: Muskrat
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 4:17 pm
The collected wisdom, on this site, never fails to amaze me. Thanks Donald, William, Hans & Mike.