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Re: Tummelweed
Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:53 am
by hankaye
Hans, Howdy;
Dang ! That's a beauty...
Video at 11:00 ?????
Seriously, to see how
you were able to jam
so much
into such a tiny area
would be interesting
to watch ...
hank
Re: Tummelweed
Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:59 am
by Mike Connor
Hans Weilenmann wrote:
Tummelweed
Hook: Kamasan B175 #16
Thread: Benecchi 12/0, black
Wing: Partridge tail barbs
Hackle: Whiting Coq de Leon hen, medium pardo
Body: Mole, dyed chestnut
Cheers,
Hans W
Looks good. One point I have noticed on flies of this type, they work better if the wing actually protrudes from the thorax ( as in the natural fly) instead of being tied in at the front. This of course is difficult to quantify, but it does make an appreciable difference on a number of flies.
TL
MC
Re: Tummelweed
Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:30 am
by Hans Weilenmann
Mike Connor wrote:Looks good. One point I have noticed on flies of this type, they work better if the wing actually protrudes from the thorax ( as in the natural fly) instead of being tied in at the front. This of course is difficult to quantify, but it does make an appreciable difference on a number of flies.
TL
MC
Mike,
Interesting observation. Pls clarify, using the fly shown in this thread, this would be a wing sprouting from the middle of the small thorax? If so, where would the hackle be? Still ahead of the thorax?
Let me know and I might do one up to see how they compare, side by side.
Cheers,
Hans W
Re: Tummelweed
Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:47 am
by Mike Connor
You can see it here;
http://www.flymphforum.com/viewtopic.ph ... ing#p12743
There is a marked difference in catch rates on the flies with the wings at the front and the wings at the thorax. In a few cases I have caught fish on the "thorax wing" fly, switched to an otherwise identical "forward wing" fly and caught nothing, switched back and started catching again. It is an apparently minor difference to us but it obviously makes a difference to the fish, and is sometimes the difference between catching and not catching.
I don't use "extra hackles" as such on these flies any more, I just pick out some dubbing. I found they worked better.
http://flymphforum.com/viewtopic.php?f= ... 120#p36169
On various soft-hackles, spiders etc the hackle usually represents the wings of a fly of course.
TL
MC
Re: Tummelweed
Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 2:34 pm
by Hans Weilenmann
Front view:
Cheers,
Hans W
Re: Tummelweed
Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:26 pm
by redietz
I thought it was over-dressed, myself.
