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Re: Tongue-tied and twisted...
Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 9:44 pm
by hankaye
CB, Howdy;
hank
I think my lower jaw
may come up from the floor somtime next week
Re: Tongue-tied and twisted...
Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 8:00 am
by tie2fish
This whole series has been pretty amazing right from the start, but these last three are simply killer dressings. The first really new technique I've seen in a while. Steelhead for sure, landlocks are probable, striped bass when tied in larger sizes, maybe even marlin ... ? The potential is staggering.
Re: Tongue-tied and twisted...
Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 10:16 am
by CreationBear
Ha, thanks for indulging me, guys--a solution looking for a problem, no doubt, but it's fun to fiddle with the structure of fly patterns. Just so I don't mislead anybody, though, I nicked the "twist" from Hans--
http://www.flymphforum.com/viewtopic.ph ... rest#p9981--though no doubt he has a more elegant solution to getting it all on the hook.
At any rate, if you had a more scientific approach to fishing than I do (not to mention pickier fish

) it would be interesting to compare the effectiveness of these "full dress" flymphs with those tied with the classic spider components of hook/thread/hackle. What I suspect is that while the former might look more "natural" to us, the flicker and flutter of the spider would take more fish, if only because there are fewer things to go wrong. For instance, the orange floss softie that Ray just posted would probably out fish my "salmon" pattern 10-1, and he wouldn't have to switch to a bass-bug taper to get it on the water.

Re: Tongue-tied and twisted...
Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 2:32 pm
by William Anderson
tie2fish wrote:This whole series has been pretty amazing right from the start, but these last three are simply killer dressings. The first really new technique I've seen in a while. Steelhead for sure, landlocks are probable, striped bass when tied in larger sizes, maybe even marlin ... ? The potential is staggering.
Ditto. I'm just thoroughly impressed with the whole bunch. I'm sure you won't have any trouble finding a few folks to conduct your comparison field study. My address is...
w
Re: Tongue-tied and twisted...
Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 8:02 am
by CreationBear
Re: Tongue-tied and twisted...
Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 6:31 pm
by William Anderson
CB, please don't stop this series. It's not so much about when your satiated with the flies...it's really about us. So, come on...keep em coming. What was the under-hackle on this one? and is the partridge a full wrap or fibers in a loop? Beautifully done. and very descriptive pics too.
w
Re: Tongue-tied and twisted...
Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 7:01 pm
by CreationBear
What was the under-hackle on this one?
Ha, William--I should have warned those of a traditionalist bent to avert their eyes.

At any rate, that's a starling underhackle and a conventionally hackled partridge feather in front--I'd call it a Greenwell's flymph, but that would be wrong. Very wrong.

Might fish it it to a Quill Gordon hatch this spring, though....

Re: Tongue-tied and twisted...
Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 7:10 pm
by hankaye
CreationBear, Howdy;
Woah, ... shut the front door, ... whoop-whoop, ... Franklin Delano ...
and a wet shot ta boot ... with out us having to ask...
DY-NO-MITE !!
hank
Re: Tongue-tied and twisted...
Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 10:22 pm
by fflutterffly
WHAT? these are wonderful, expressive and look deadly.
Re: Tongue-tied and twisted...
Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 10:54 pm
by kanutripr
I'll never be tired of these ones.
Vicki