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Re: New Spider Hooks

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 11:42 am
by willowhead
"Stumpy"............cool word..........and kinna, when you think about it.........Caddis ARE, kinna "Stumpy." :D .....their wings often being so much longer than their bodies..........seems your friend, must have a good eye. ;) Does he play Billards by any chance..... :lol:

Re: New Spider Hooks

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 12:32 pm
by Otter
quote="willowhead] Does he play Billards by any chance..... :lol:[/quote]

Nah, he is colour/color blind.

Caddis are stumpy, the fly was Stumpy but he would nae fish it as spiders are not supposed to be stumpy - thank god I did not describe it as a NC spider as it would have got me into right hot water.

So from now on any stumpy spider tied on a stumpy short shank hook will belong to the Stumpie's, my new classification for such malligned patterns - that should sort out any confusion. The big question for the members of this forum to decide - would such a tying belong to the subclass "Stumpy Spider" or a "Stumpy Flymph"

Re: New Spider Hooks

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 12:45 pm
by North Country Angler
Someone beat you too it by a couple hundred years :D
Image
From a manuscript of North Country Flies dated 1848 featuring flies tied in 1820 and dating back to the late 1700s
Please note this image is not to be posted on other forums!!!!

Re: New Spider Hooks

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 1:18 pm
by willowhead
Norm.....you CRACK ME UP......... :lol:

NCA.........those are incredble tyes...........the body on that bottom fly is amazing..............never ceases to amaze me, how they EVER caught fish with what looked to be 100 lb. test leaders............ :shock: :D
Here we are 200 years later tryin' to perfect frickin' Frog Hair.....(tippet).....fine enough, to where you can hardly see it...........and they caught fish with what looked like parachute rope tyed to their flies................. :roll: .................."How did they DO..........That?" :oops: ..........go figure.

Re: New Spider Hooks

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 3:19 pm
by Otter
Fine examples of stumpy flies and as they would say in Dublin, a "daycent" (decent) amount of hackle and proof that Stumpies have stood the test of time and deserve to be accorded respect.

They obviously have been well cared for.

Re: New Spider Hooks

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 3:28 pm
by daringduffer
Otter wrote:Fine examples of stumpy flies and as they would say in Dublin, a "daycent" (decent) amount of hackle and proof that Stumpies have stood the test of time and deserve to be accorded respect.

They obviously have been well cared for.
They remind me of the Walbran flies Johnno showed us a couple of years ago. Real world hackles. I seem to remember posting one of Roger Woolley's well-hackled flies as well...

dd

Re: New Spider Hooks

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 3:53 pm
by Ron Eagle Elk
NCA,

Those are beautiful! Thanks for sharing them. Can you tell if the leader is horse hair or silk gut? Just curious as to what material it is and how translucent it becomes when wet.

REE

Re: New Spider Hooks

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 5:09 pm
by North Country Angler
The flies are tied to gut, some of the flies are tiny which makes the dressing skills even more impressive. The manuscript forms the basis of Pritt's and others books. The story will come out in our book. There is another treasure that will blow the North Country spiders history apart and rewrite angling history.

Re: New Spider Hooks

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 6:48 pm
by DNicolson
This new hook from Partridge is a very nice hook, but it is really a type of hook used by coarse anglers here for many years. The coarse fishing tackle market is huge here in the UK and the rest of Europe. There are many variations on this type of hook, the Drennan Specialist hooks and others have been mentioned on this site many times.
Here are a selection of sites I found by searching 'Coarse Fishing Hooks' on Google UK.
There are eyed and spade end hooks, with various makes of spade end tyers available.

http://www.quickstrike-fishing-tackle.c ... 4Qodzksgmg

http://www.poingdestres.co.uk/c/46/Hooks---Coarse.html

http://www.daiwasports.co.uk/products/c ... arse-hooks

There are a lot more sites if you want to look.

Re: New Spider Hooks

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 6:55 pm
by Ron Eagle Elk
Okay, I just placed an order for some of the new hooks in sizes 12 and 14, along with some mole dyed in some nice colors.

I guess I'm just a tackle tart at heart.

REE