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Re: New Spider Hooks
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 7:08 pm
by willowhead
DAMN.............lemme outta there................Donald, you aint right.

Temptin' me that way...........but thank God i got outta there before i went lookin' for a credit card..............WHEW!

Re: New Spider Hooks
Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 5:48 am
by North Country Angler
Thanks Ron, your order will be shipped on Monday.
Donald whilst there are indeed many coarse hooks available within the UK market and some people do try to dress spider on them. The Kamasan B525 being the classic example which some people like to pay through the nose for when it is relabelled Alex Jackson. However the are several problems with using coarse hooks, firstly the depth of throat in relation to shank length is often too great,with the hook point often finishing just behind the eye. Also the wire is often too heavy for modern sensibilities as the modern spider enthusiast has become fixated with light wire hooks. The gape is also quite narrow on many coarse hooks.
The difference with Partridge is that the company actually likes to design its own range of fly hooks rather than just feeding off the coarse market. This ideology can be seen in several ranges of their hooks such as Klinkhammer Hooks, Czech Nymph Hooks, Ollie Edwards Swimming Nymph Hooks and now the Classic Spider Hook.
I designed the hook for Partridge and would not give my name to it if it was little more than coarse hook.
Re: New Spider Hooks
Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 3:09 pm
by Kelly L.
You know I read this thread and was sure I had messed up buying the Alec Jackson soft hackle hooks. For one thing they were smaller than I thought they'd be, but I loved them. I am gonna get the biggest two sizes, and hope I can see them. Now, I read Kamasan has a comparable hook much cheaper. I was all set to try to find some on the internet, when I ran into a tying from who is from England. He says the Kamasan hooks are crap. So, please respond to this. I am going to start a hook thread, since nobody answered the hook reference question I had. I would subscribe to this thread, but do not know how to do so. I looked earlier. I hope several people will voice an opinion on this. My resources are very limited, so I don't want to waste money.
Re: New Spider Hooks
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 3:40 pm
by North Country Angler
Kelly,
You might want to inform your friend in the UK, that Daiichi and Kamasan are the same hook company! The Alex Jackson hooks are nothing more than Kamasan B525s I should know I have been using them for over 12 years

Re: New Spider Hooks
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 3:46 pm
by letumgo
Bob - Thanks for that info. I can easily get the Daiichi hooks locally, but would have to order the Kamasam hooks on-line. You've just saved me the hassle. Do you know what the Kamasan B175 would be in the Daiichi model?
Re: New Spider Hooks
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 4:01 pm
by North Country Angler
I will have a scan through my PDFs of hook patterns and suppliers and come back to you on that

Re: New Spider Hooks
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 4:09 pm
by letumgo
Thanks.

Re: New Spider Hooks
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 7:35 pm
by Kelly L.
North Country Angler wrote:Kelly,
You might want to inform your friend in the UK, that Daiichi and Kamasan are the same hook company! The Alex Jackson hooks are nothing more than Kamasan B525s I should know I have been using them for over 12 years

Oh good grief, you gotta be kidding me. I am gonna go look at your website. I hope you are in the USA.

Re: New Spider Hooks
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 11:13 pm
by JohnP
Kelly L. wrote:North Country Angler wrote:Kelly,
You might want to inform your friend in the UK, that Daiichi and Kamasan are the same hook company! The Alex Jackson hooks are nothing more than Kamasan B525s I should know I have been using them for over 12 years

Oh good grief, you gotta be kidding me. I am gonna go look at your website. I hope you are in the USA.

He is in England, but his shipping costs are reasonable and service is first rate. I have been tying some of Stewart's spiders on his hooks. Simple, but very fishy looking.

Re: New Spider Hooks
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 5:04 am
by willowhead
Ray, did you ever find out bout that Kamasan B175???????
