Covert feathers

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Covert feathers

Post by ForumGhillie » Thu Oct 18, 2018 11:26 am

Would one of you retired knowledgeable fly tiers who has lots of free time on their hands upload a photo of where to find the outer covert and inner covert feathers on the bird wings. I think it would be helpful to others who are learning more about tying soft hackle / wingless wets / Yorkshire spiders.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Covert_fe ... n_wing.svg

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Re: Covert feathers

Post by hankaye » Thu Oct 18, 2018 11:36 am

working John, Howdy;

Why stop with one (1), here's a computer page where the seeker
of knowledge may find one that makes sense to them...
https://www.google.com/search?q=outer+c ... 06&dpr=0.9

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Re: Covert feathers

Post by redietz » Thu Oct 18, 2018 12:45 pm

I think in this context that "outer" and "inner" just mean from the top of the wing and the underside of the wing, respectively.
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Re: Covert feathers

Post by tie2fish » Fri Oct 19, 2018 1:43 pm

redietz wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 12:45 pm
I think in this context that "outer" and "inner" just mean from the top of the wing and the underside of the wing, respectively.
I think Bob is absolutely correct. Same goes for "upper" vs "lower" or "top" vs "bottom".
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Re: Covert feathers

Post by letumgo » Sun Oct 21, 2018 9:15 am

I spent the morning pulling out books and looking thru them looking for reference drawings showing the location of various feathers on birds.

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Here are some of the ones I found.

Source "The Art of Tying the Wet Fly" by James Leisenring (First Edition/Fourth Printing/Page 20)
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Source "The Art of the Wet Fly" by W.S. Roger Fogg (ISBN 0-7136-1950-3/Published 1979/Page 63)
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Source "Wet-Fly Tying and Fishing" by Rodger Fogg (ISBN 978-1-84797-127-2/Published 2009)
Page 103
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Page 104
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Source "The North Country Fly - Yorkshire's Soft-Hackle Tradition" by Robert L. Smith (ISBN 978-1-904784-65-4/Published 2015/First Edition)
Page 200
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Page 216
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Rob Smith's book has the clearest diagram, and extensive photos of the individual covert feather photos from rare birds. The best coverage I've found.

The "Flympher" and "A Guide to North Country flies"did not have any feather diagrams in them, but are still great books.

Anyway, I encourage others to pull out their books to see if there are other helpful references.
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Re: Covert feathers

Post by tie2fish » Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:09 am

With tongue only partially in cheek, I offer the following:

Covert feathers = the small, rounded ones found near the leading edge (front) of the wing, both top and bottom.
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Re: Covert feathers

Post by hankaye » Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:46 am

Ray, Howdy;

Excellent presentation, until ... the last 2 pix
I see the circle with dash inside :cry:

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Re: Covert feathers

Post by letumgo » Sun Oct 21, 2018 12:28 pm

Hank - I reposted the last two links. Hopefully you can see the pics now.

Thanks for the heads-up ;)
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Re: Covert feathers

Post by wsbailey » Sun Oct 21, 2018 12:40 pm

From Brook and River Trouting.

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Re: Covert feathers

Post by hankaye » Sun Oct 21, 2018 6:27 pm

Ray, Howdy;

Yup, now they are where they are supposed to be. :)

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