Thread: primrose well waxed
Body: 1/2 primrose thread, 1/2 a dark claret and yellow seal (I used worsted here)
Hackle: light dun, short
Out of The Art of Tying the Wet Fly and Fishing the Flymph.
Tup's Nymph
Moderators: William Anderson, letumgo
Tup's Nymph
Hook: Mustad 3366 #16
Thread: primrose well waxed
Body: 1/2 primrose thread, 1/2 a dark claret and yellow seal (I used worsted here)
Hackle: light dun, short
Out of The Art of Tying the Wet Fly and Fishing the Flymph.
Thread: primrose well waxed
Body: 1/2 primrose thread, 1/2 a dark claret and yellow seal (I used worsted here)
Hackle: light dun, short
Out of The Art of Tying the Wet Fly and Fishing the Flymph.
I hate it when I think I'm buying organic vegetables, and when I get home I discover they are just regular donuts.
http://www.oldhatflytying.com
http://www.oldhatflytying.com
-
Soft-hackle
- Site Admin
- Posts: 1874
- Joined: Sat Feb 21, 2009 10:23 am
- Location: Wellsville, NY
Re: Tup's Nymph
One of my favorite patterns, Carl. Very nice and simple.
About the 3366 hooks. Do you use them a lot? Chris Stewart sent me a few to try, and I'm sure both he and I would be interested in your hook-up result. Also, the knowledgeable Mike Connor does not approve of the barbs/points on these hooks. I forget exactly what his complaint was. Perhaps they were too long.
Mark
About the 3366 hooks. Do you use them a lot? Chris Stewart sent me a few to try, and I'm sure both he and I would be interested in your hook-up result. Also, the knowledgeable Mike Connor does not approve of the barbs/points on these hooks. I forget exactly what his complaint was. Perhaps they were too long.
Mark
"I have the highest respect for the skilled wet-fly fisherman, as he has mastered an art of very great difficulty.” Edward R. Hewitt
http://www.libstudio.com/FS&S
http://www.libstudio.com/FS&S
Re: Tup's Nymph
I haven't had a chance to fish them yet Mark. I just picked them up about a month ago and have just got around to tying on them. They are sharp and the point is long. I usually pinch the barb before I fish for trout. I like the look of the hook as far as pleasing to my eye but can't comment on hook-ups. I will keep this in mind though when I fish them and let you know what I think. I have fished with the 3121 up eye that is on the pale watery wingless which has a similar point and barb and really like it, however we're looking at an up eye and limerick bend so there is considerable difference.
Carl
Carl
I hate it when I think I'm buying organic vegetables, and when I get home I discover they are just regular donuts.
http://www.oldhatflytying.com
http://www.oldhatflytying.com
-
Soft-hackle
- Site Admin
- Posts: 1874
- Joined: Sat Feb 21, 2009 10:23 am
- Location: Wellsville, NY
Re: Tup's Nymph
Hi Carl,
Yes, I mash the barb on these as well when I use them. I like the idea of a straight eye hook for some of the more traditional patterns. Fogg suggests straight eye hooks, but they are called specimen hooks, which I'm sure you've heard of. A very similar hook would be a Daiichi 1640, straight eye, short-ish shank. They are used a lot for tube flies, but they have the perfect North Country profile. You've probably heard of them as well. I need to purchase some for spiders and such to see how they work.
Lately, the majority of my flies are still tied on Mustad 3399A and the Daiichi 1550.
Mark
Yes, I mash the barb on these as well when I use them. I like the idea of a straight eye hook for some of the more traditional patterns. Fogg suggests straight eye hooks, but they are called specimen hooks, which I'm sure you've heard of. A very similar hook would be a Daiichi 1640, straight eye, short-ish shank. They are used a lot for tube flies, but they have the perfect North Country profile. You've probably heard of them as well. I need to purchase some for spiders and such to see how they work.
Lately, the majority of my flies are still tied on Mustad 3399A and the Daiichi 1550.
Mark
"I have the highest respect for the skilled wet-fly fisherman, as he has mastered an art of very great difficulty.” Edward R. Hewitt
http://www.libstudio.com/FS&S
http://www.libstudio.com/FS&S
Re: Tup's Nymph
Did someone say tup's????? A fan of the tup's as well.....just a great history/story and a great fly....well done!
-
William Anderson
- Site Admin
- Posts: 4569
- Joined: Mon Feb 23, 2009 3:14 pm
- Location: Ashburn, VA 20148
- Contact:
Re: Tup's Nymph
That's a nice looking fly, Carl. I like to see all the combinations of materials that people conjure up to create the Tupp's body. Thread and seal is a nice one.
w
w
"A man should not try to eliminate his complexes, but rather come into accord with them. They are ultimately what directs his conduct in the world." Sigmund Freud.
www.WilliamsFavorite.com
www.WilliamsFavorite.com
Re: Tup's Nymph
TUP's they were put on this planet to drive tyers NUTS. 
"I like beer, do you like beer, I like beer a lot."
Re: Tup's Nymph
Narcodog,
Have you ever read how this pattern and it material list came about? Skues offers a great version of how the pattern materials were kept secret until after the orig. and his daughter had both passed away. Skues outlived them both! The original material list is rather amusing right down to the combings from a lemon spaniel and of course the main ingredient, tups fur.
I tie a very simple version much like yours and it works great! I find that pure seals fur is a bit tricky to tie with. I am always on the lookout for softer furs that are tied just the right shade of pink. What shade might that be you ask? I dunno. I just have this particular color in my brain of the way it ought to be. And how would I know that? Again, I dunno. But then again I'm a clod behind the vice. My finny friends have proven to me over and over again that they really don't give a hoot about what shade of pink fur. They are very kind to me in that respect!
Yours,
Clodsden
Have you ever read how this pattern and it material list came about? Skues offers a great version of how the pattern materials were kept secret until after the orig. and his daughter had both passed away. Skues outlived them both! The original material list is rather amusing right down to the combings from a lemon spaniel and of course the main ingredient, tups fur.
I tie a very simple version much like yours and it works great! I find that pure seals fur is a bit tricky to tie with. I am always on the lookout for softer furs that are tied just the right shade of pink. What shade might that be you ask? I dunno. I just have this particular color in my brain of the way it ought to be. And how would I know that? Again, I dunno. But then again I'm a clod behind the vice. My finny friends have proven to me over and over again that they really don't give a hoot about what shade of pink fur. They are very kind to me in that respect!
Yours,
Clodsden
Fish when you can, not when you should! Anything short of this is just a disaster.
Re: Tup's Nymph
DD, yes I have read the story and I happen to have some "Tups" fur. I received a small bag and have shared it with some folks. Now I am down to enough for me to be on the lookout for more. I used seal in my blend along with some red wool. I never did get any Spaniel hair though.
"I like beer, do you like beer, I like beer a lot."
-
CM_Stewart
- Posts: 257
- Joined: Sat Feb 21, 2009 5:17 pm
- Location: New York City
- Contact:
Re: Tup's Nymph
After having fished with the 3366 hooks and the newer Signature series, I much prefer the newer hooks with the micro barb or Daiichi's. I think Mike was exactly right that the large size of the barb does affect penetration. I have a few left, but I won't be buying any more.
On the Tups, I tried to be only slightly obsessive, so I made my blend with ram's wool (though not from THERE), undyed (but not unborn)seal fur, a very little bit red mohair for a hint of color, and golden retriever fur because I couldn't find spaniel (got a lifetime supply of golden retriever, though, if someone wants a bit). I don't have any light dun hackle, but woodcock undercoverts or corturnix quail (in fly shown) seem to work pretty well, too. The fish don't seem to mind.
Please pardon the cell phone photo.
On the Tups, I tried to be only slightly obsessive, so I made my blend with ram's wool (though not from THERE), undyed (but not unborn)seal fur, a very little bit red mohair for a hint of color, and golden retriever fur because I couldn't find spaniel (got a lifetime supply of golden retriever, though, if someone wants a bit). I don't have any light dun hackle, but woodcock undercoverts or corturnix quail (in fly shown) seem to work pretty well, too. The fish don't seem to mind.
Please pardon the cell phone photo.